2024 Football Season

[HS Football Fanatic]

Yes, Gridiron, but what I've been trying to say the past few posts, is that the Saints' O is now an entirely different animal; it's like their O came from a different school, or something. The Saint O that played the Warriors, is not the same Saint O that played the Puns this past weekend. Also, the Warriors were aided by all those personal-foul penalties that the Saints had; looks like the Saints' coaching staff have cleaned that up.
Again, I want the Red Raiders to beat the Saints, but I need a concrete reason to believe that they can.

[RealTalk]

@HS Football Fanatic
@Gridiron 88
I am a big fan of the OIA Open this year. I was NOT counting on an ILH Open team being a factor. in playoffs until STL just completely mauled Punahou. . . STL, YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION NOW. This is a product of coaching - credit to the STL Staff. I still like an OIA Open team to win but it's now even more interesting with STL at this level.

[Gridiron88]

@HS Football Fanatic
@Gridiron 88
I am a big fan of the OIA Open this year. I was NOT counting on an ILH Open team being a factor. in playoffs until STL just completely mauled Punahou. . . STL, YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION NOW. This is a product of coaching - credit to the STL Staff. I still like an OIA Open team to win but it's now even more interesting with STL at this level.

We wen crush St Lulu tree yees go da yea dey wen crush Kamehameha bye five TDs. We can do it gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJsvzO ... IDQxLTc%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqYZLvIv2Ho

[unpaid]

This is a really cumbersome ILH Open playoff format. The potential is there for the state Open semifinals to start the same weekend that the ILH might be deciding its league champion. If the playoffs drag into the first round of states, Khon2 is reporting that the HHSAA might move the state playoffs back a week.

Why should the state do it? I would be fine with the HHSAA keeping to its tournament dates (which all schools knew about before the season started.) and basically telling the ILH that you need to have your champion decided the weekend prior to Nov. 15. Otherwise the three OIA teams will battle it out without the ILH rep. How many times do the ILH teams have to play each other to figure out who their champs are…three times,four…five?

That’s the nightmare scenario, although St. Louis can fix it by winning out and presumably there would not need to be a third ILH playoff week that would be on the same week that Open states begins.

[HS Football Fanatic]

@HS Football Fanatic
@Gridiron 88
I am a big fan of the OIA Open this year. I was NOT counting on an ILH Open team being a factor. in playoffs until STL just completely mauled Punahou. . . STL, YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION NOW. This is a product of coaching - credit to the STL Staff. I still like an OIA Open team to win but it's now even more interesting with STL at this level.

@RealTalk: Well, you can pretty-much count Kamehameha out every year. But, St Louis and Punahou? You can never count those two schools out. This year, I think you can count Punahou out. However, St Louis is going to States, and all the other schools in the tourney had better watch-out for them. The Saints' O is just as dangerous as the Sabers'. One could argue that the Saints' O might be even more dangerous than the Sabers' because the Sabers' run-game is no match for the Saints'. Meanwhile, the Red Raiders' D may be the best in the state, but the Saints can run and pass the ball better than the Red Raiders can. Also, the Saints' D is no slouch, either.
Honestly, I'd like to see the Sabers win it all, but if not them, my second choice would be the Red Raiders. I do not want to see the Saints take it.

[HS Football Fanatic]

@HS Football Fanatic
@Gridiron 88
I am a big fan of the OIA Open this year. I was NOT counting on an ILH Open team being a factor. in playoffs until STL just completely mauled Punahou. . . STL, YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION NOW. This is a product of coaching - credit to the STL Staff. I still like an OIA Open team to win but it's now even more interesting with STL at this level.

We wen crush St Lulu tree yees go da yea dey wen crush Kamehameha bye five TDs. We can do it gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJsvzO ... IDQxLTc%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqYZLvIv2Ho

@Gridiron88: As I had mentioned in earlier posts, I would love to see the Red Raiders beat the Saints. However, you can't look at what happened three years ago; that was then, this is now. Except for their D, the Red Raiders are weaker this year than they were three years ago. At the same time, the Saints are stronger now than they were three years ago, especially on O. As for the Warriors, well, they got lucky when they beat the Saints the second time they played each other.

[DaLake818]

A lot of teams in each OIA division are tied for a spot to go to the playoffs…what are the actual OIA rules for deciding who gets to go?

[gopunahou]

I wish interleague play would come back and wonder who’s got the nonsensical opinion that it shouldn’t.

[Markeke]

Well one thing for sure, come Fri.@Mililani, one of the 2 STATE OPEN 2023 finalist will be packing.

[RealTalk]

OIA D2: (ScoringLive) "Both Roosevelt and Castle completed their regular seasons with 6-1 records, and Kaiser can finish 6-1 as well with a win over McKinley Saturday, a team they beat in its season opener, 56-7, creating a logjam atop the OIA Division II standings. Those same standings could get even more complex with a win Saturday for Kalani over Kaimuki, which would result in another three-way tie, this one for the final playoff berth"
--- So, after last night, we know Roosevelt, Castle, and Kaiser in. Waialua, Kalaheo, and maybe Kalani got chance. PAC-5 is waiting for all these guys.

OIA D1: Radford lost a tough one to Waianae last night. (ScoringLive) "he win by the Seariders leveled both teams records to 4-3, and set up a possible three-way tie scenario with Kailua, should the Surfriders lose in its finale against Aiea. A Kailua victory assures them the third seed in the playoffs and also would slot Waianae in as the final playoff squad by virtue of the head-to-head win over the Rams. Leilehua is locked in as the top seed in the playoffs with a 6-1 record and a win over Moanalua. Na Menehune also clinch a slot at 5-1, with a game against Nanakuli left on the slate.
---So, after last night, Leilehua, Moanalua in with Kailua and Waianae likely if Kailua can knock of Aiea. If Kailua loses to Aiea, we got a 3 way tie be Radford, Waianae, Kailua.
--The Kailua v. Aiea game is today at 330 so there is reason to watch this game. Kailua v Aiea is the game of the day today.

ILH NONSENSE:
Interleague play: YES PLEASE!!!! Hard to take the ILH seriously. STL should be ticked.
---- Way too much out of state scheduling for Oahu teams ($$$). Way too many off weeks. All of this is unnecessary if there was interleague play/alliance.

[unpaid]

My impression at the time the OIA/ILH Alliance ended was because the guys at the OIA office wanted to pull out of it. I hope the Open Alliance returns one day, but it’s people at the OIA office that will have to be persuaded to give it another try.

[Markeke]

The wet dreams of the OIA came to fruitration in 2023 when the Open State Championship was the All OIA. First ever.

[gopunahou]

I think the OIA has refused to go back to interleague play because they think it’m create too many games. I know a way around that—have the OIA Open teams play all three ILH Open teams and two/three fellow OIA Open teams. They did it last year, since Mililani and Kahuku only met twice—in the OIA championship game and state championship game. They didn’t play each other in the regular season. Both leagues can make this work.

[HS Football Fanatic]

Hello, everyone. I don't know, speaking just for myself, it doesn't really matter to me how many games a school plays; it's whether that school wins a title or not. I apologize for not being willing to reveal my alma mater, while most of you have. But, I do like Kamehameha Schools, so I follow them. I, for one, don't really care how many games they play; it's whether they win a title or not. With St Louis School and Punahou School in their division, they almost never take ILH Open. That's why I don't complain about how many or how few games they play. If they don't win a title, who cares? I mean, it was nice that they were somehow able to upset the Saints, but that was good only while it lasted. The Warriors still aren't going to win a title, so to me, the win over the Saints was only a flash in the pan. The "high" of that win, lasted only so long. It didn't change the fact that they won't win a title. It did extend their season, but who cares, if they lose the additional game. I mean, I'd be charged-up if more than one ILH school made Open States, and the Warriors had finished second in the ILH and would get to States. But, only one ILH school can go. When you're in ILH Open, unless you win that title, you aren't going anywhere; you're hanging-up your cleats.

[Markeke]

My impression at the time the OIA/ILH Alliance ended was because the guys at the OIA office wanted to pull out of it. I hope the Open Alliance returns one day, but it’s people at the OIA office that will have to be persuaded to give it another try.

The OIA has leverage itself into a better position over the years. Very lenient "transfer" rules within the league has given certain teams the edge in both Open and D1. On the other side, ILH has been sticking to their 1 year sit rule whether coming from the public side or private school side. More kids have jumped from private to public programs especially seniors. As far as exposure to scholarships, I think it's even. But yes, the Alliance needs to comeback for a more competitive Hawaii High school system. Even at the D1 and D2 level. The days of the Yada Yada St.Louis recruits stuff is long gone.