New Aloha Stadium & TC Ching Expansion

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Mahalo Honu808...
Sheez, temporary swap meet, while NASED is being developed, anywhere between 5-10 years.....

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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/05/ ... 92c2a835ea

https://twitter.com/StarAdvertiser/status/1924329192608428262

Dave Shapiro: Playing ‘Wheel of Fortune’ with new Aloha Stadium
May 18, 2025

The new Aloha Stadium is near a major turning point without clear answers on how much it’ll cost or how it’ll be paid.

The state set a June 30 deadline for signing a final deal with its private partner, Aloha Halawa District Partners, to design, build, operate and maintain a stadium. The partner gets rights to develop the surrounding 98 acres as an entertainment district to include housing, a hotel and commercial attractions.

Stadium officials say they’re on schedule to start demolishing the condemned 50,000-seat existing stadium in August and open the new facility in time for the 2028 University of Hawaii football season.

After that, things get blurry.

The state believes a basic, functional stadium of about 25,000 seats can be built for the $350 million allocated by the Legislature in 2022. Planners are looking at reusing the existing stadium footprint, including end zone seating that’s reinforced concrete and not rusted steel like the other sections, potentially saving $90 million.

“Building in place can reduce the amount of utility and earthwork required, allowing the construction budget to focus more on the building itself,” said interim stadium manager Chris Sadayasu in an email.

But the private development group led by Stanford Carr wants a bigger and more elaborate stadium to draw more events and visitors to the entertainment district. Carr told the Legislature the ultimate cost of an expanded stadium could reach $650 million.

For the entertainment district to succeed, he told legislators, “You need to develop a stadium at a scale that will attract more venues, entertainers and bring people in for concerts.”

Makes you wonder if the priority is development supporting a stadium, as originally proposed, or if it’s the stadium supporting developers.

Lawmakers vowed they won’t commit more than the $350 million already approved. This session, they wouldn’t release $49.5 million in allocated funds to cover stadium-related consulting and administrative costs. Some House members wanted to kill the project and upgrade Ching Field at UH.

Plans to raise money for expansion are sketchy. A bill to put a casino on the site died quickly, and Gov. Josh Green’s search for philanthropic funding hasn’t borne fruit.

The state’s latest stadium newsletter floated tax increment financing or a community facilities district, which would use city-issued bonds repaid with future property taxes collected from the stadium development.

Mayor Rick Blangiardi didn’t respond to emailed questions about whether he’s OK with diverting property taxes reserved for counties under Hawaii’s Constitution to pay for a state project.

Sadayasu said by email, “Once further diligence is completed regarding the project’s finances, we will have a clearer picture of amounts sought (and able to be funded) and the most appropriate mechanisms. At that point, we will have formal conversations with the City and County of Honolulu and relevant state agencies.”

Before any development agreement is signed, we need firm assurances the state will get a serviceable stadium for no more than $350 million and has no further major financial obligations.

With many challenges ahead for funding higher priority needs, we can’t afford another sinkhole that swallows us like Honolulu Rail.

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Stadium officials say they’re on schedule to start demolishing the condemned 50,000-seat existing stadium in August and open the new facility in time for the 2028 University of Hawaii football season.

After that, things get blurry.

Here we go again

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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/develo ... a-stadium/

https://twitter.com/KHONnews/status/1927588178208407738

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[My3Cats]

That's a positive sign if it's the potential developer who did the application. What is the State dickering for?

[Walkoff Balk]

Is there a big, beautiful bill for a new stadium? Let me stop right there for the complainers of politics in sports. Brah, the whole issue of a new stadium is about politics. So, no get your panties in a bunch.

[kapakahi]

More self-inflicted delays…using up available float/cushion (if any even available) in the site development/construction schedule….even before breaking ground….already putting the developer behind schedule from the get-go.

Given that the Aloha Stadium site consists predominantly of highly expansive clay soil (i.e., red dirt) with poor drainage and structural characteristics (along with possible iwi burials - given that some were previously uncovered by GW Murphy Construction during the original Aloha Stadium construction), the developer already faces construction challenges so definitely won’t be making up any time during construction….which is similar to what has caused the Rail’s construction delays & cost overruns.

https://twitter.com/RobDeMelloKHON/status/1937603824912683480

https://twitter.com/MichaelLasquero/status/1937606652980801848

https://twitter.com/SpectrumNewsHI/status/1937628137631748295

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[Krusty]

I think it will get done but not as soon as the fans would like it too.

Just hate for any kind of delay though I know.

[cabanalane]

My son was in Hawaii last week and went to the Swap Meet. He facetime me so I can see. It was nice to see it's still there. I used to go almost every week. Then football and tailgating pop back into my mind.

The main purpose of the Aloha Stadium was football. But it will be a sad day (for me) when the Swap Meet ends.

[RedZone]

Anybody know why they repaved and painted the lower parking lot? Kinda looks weird considering they are planning to rebuild.

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Anybody know why they repaved and painted the lower parking lot? Kinda looks weird considering they are planning to rebuild.

Swap Meet location, parking & entrance being moved because of impending demolition of the original Aloha Stadium (slated to commence in August) and eventual follow-up construction of new replacement Aloha Stadium.


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[cabanalane]

My father used to sell at the Swap Meet. For the sellers currently, I hope they kept the exact dimensions of "two stalls." The tents were exactly the same size of two stalls. Parking lot stalls tend to shrink, not just in Hawaii, but all over.

[RedZone]

Anybody know why they repaved and painted the lower parking lot? Kinda looks weird considering they are planning to rebuild.

Swap Meet location, parking & entrance being moved because of impending demolition of the original Aloha Stadium (slated to commence in August) and eventual follow-up construction of new replacement Aloha Stadium.


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Thanks.