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BigWave96744 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:15 am This thing isn't going to make the 2028 deadline guarans
Just the stadium is dated for 2028. Everything else around it comes later.

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EITSwarrior wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:20 am
BigWave96744 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:15 am This thing isn't going to make the 2028 deadline guarans
Just the stadium is dated for 2028. Everything else around it comes later.
Yes that's what I was referring to, the stadium alone not being done by 2028. I think the entire NASED Aloha Love venue and experience might be done in 15-20 years

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I don’t have access to the Honolulu staradvertiser so I can’t post any links or quotes, so feel free to delete my post if need be.

I seen on Facebook something about Hawaii tourism working on a 2 year deal with the LA Rams, does any one have info on this and what the deal is about?

I posted here because if this is about playing games here where will they play? Also we better hurry with the new stadium. Is 25K seats big enough to host an NFL game?

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ulua wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:43 pm I don’t have access to the Honolulu staradvertiser so I can’t post any links or quotes, so feel free to delete my post if need be.

I seen on Facebook something about Hawaii tourism working on a 2 year deal with the LA Rams, does any one have info on this and what the deal is about?

I posted here because if this is about playing games here where will they play? Also we better hurry with the new stadium. Is 25K seats big enough to host an NFL game?
Mufi was on KHON and said they are working with the Rams to run their spring camp in Maui maybe as early as 2025. No mention of any NFL games played in Hawaii

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BigWave96744 wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:09 pm
ulua wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:43 pm I don’t have access to the Honolulu staradvertiser so I can’t post any links or quotes, so feel free to delete my post if need be.

I seen on Facebook something about Hawaii tourism working on a 2 year deal with the LA Rams, does any one have info on this and what the deal is about?

I posted here because if this is about playing games here where will they play? Also we better hurry with the new stadium. Is 25K seats big enough to host an NFL game?
Mufi was on KHON and said they are working with the Rams to run their spring camp in Maui maybe as early as 2025. No mention of any NFL games played in Hawaii
Mahalo Bigwave for sharing this information!

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ulua wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 3:40 pm
BigWave96744 wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:09 pm
ulua wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:43 pm I don’t have access to the Honolulu staradvertiser so I can’t post any links or quotes, so feel free to delete my post if need be.

I seen on Facebook something about Hawaii tourism working on a 2 year deal with the LA Rams, does any one have info on this and what the deal is about?

I posted here because if this is about playing games here where will they play? Also we better hurry with the new stadium. Is 25K seats big enough to host an NFL game?
Mufi was on KHON and said they are working with the Rams to run their spring camp in Maui maybe as early as 2025. No mention of any NFL games played in Hawaii
Mahalo Bigwave for sharing this information!
Gary Dickman replayed his interview on the NASED and was told the stadium itself is just the first phase and slated for 2028. But the developer can decided if they want it 25K, 30K or more.

Wait what, they still don't have a final plan?

Also the final project to include the full on Aloha Live, will be done 20-30 years from now. Sorry but most of us may not be around and kids not even born in the next few years will never see it come to fruition to play in. Heck 20-30 years from now what will the landscape of sports in general be.

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BigWave96744 wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:41 am
Gary Dickman replayed his interview on the NASED and was told the stadium itself is just the first phase and slated for 2028. But the developer can decided if they want it 25K, 30K or more.

Wait what, they still don't have a final plan?
To date, the developer has conceptual renderings….but NO scaled Schematic Design drawings with a Plot Plan siting the stadium footprint on-site nor any scaled Exterior Elevations showing the overall stadium dimensions.

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https://twitter.com/RobDeMelloKHON/status/1884020682864185365

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.....ever evolving. Whatʻ s a few more hundred million between billionaires? At least they thinking big. Not just "a 25k seat stadium for UH."
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Worst run state in the country. Nothing will change. Everyone should be embarrassed they can’t build a 25k person Stadium for over 10 years after the last one was condemned.

The whole state would benefit from a new stadium not just UH football. It truly blows my mind how these “leaders” sleep at night. Truly criminal how business is done in this state.

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https://twitter.com/c_shimabuku/status/1885102210792804423

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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/02/ ... a-stadium/
Stephen Tsai: Enough talking, time to proceed with new Aloha Stadium

As SAT takers have learned, there are two time-tested strategies.

1. Go with your first answer. Second-guessing wastes time and leads to further indecision. For instance, if your first instinct is to run when a snarling tiger nears, why ponder other options?

2. And when in doubt about an SAT question, take a guess. The SAT does not deduct points for wrong answers.

It is a strategy welcomed at the craps table, when the stickperson finally tells wishy-washy gamblers: “No more bets.”

And it is applicable when well-intended lawmakers propose that maybe it would be a better option to build a new football stadium on the University of Hawaii campus instead of constructing a replacement for Aloha Stadium on the Halawa property.

Of course, it makes sense to build an on-campus stadium on the UH football team’s campus. In the Mountain West, of which UH currently is a football-only member, all 12 football teams play their games at on-campus stadiums or venues within 5 miles of their schools.

When Aloha Stadium was self-condemned for spectator-attended events in December 2020, UH was forced to retrofit the on-campus Ching Complex into a venue for home games. The move allowed UH to keep revenue from parking and concessions — money they did not receive as Aloha Stadium’s primary tenant for more than four decades. Aloha Stadium also billed the Rainbow Warriors for game-managements expenses, such as staffing, security and utilities. Now the Warriors provide their own.

The thing is, serious discussions and proposals on a new stadium should have been done, oh, say, in the previous four years. There was plenty of time to lobby for why renovating or replacing the Ching Complex, which is an inadequate long-term solution, would be better than building a new Halawa stadium as the center of an affordable housing and entertainment district.

But that debate period has passed, and the state and developers are a few items away from mutually agreeing to break ground in Halawa. Great shots — and ideas — do not matter after the buzzer has sounded.

In these times, it is the correct choice to go forth with the Halawa project, just as it is key for all state-subsidized projects to focus on the “now” rather than the “later.”

When the drive from downtown to Oahu’s West side stretched to more than an hour, it was evident an additional means of mass transportation was needed. Did it have to be Skyline with its ukubillion price tag and short route? Probably not. But once a decision was made, at the least, it set a start date for construction. Further debates inevitably would have resulted in higher construction costs and delays.

Similarly, if there were a shift to move the next stadium from Halawa to Manoa, it would take environmental and infrastructure studies, community hearings, additional parking, and many, many more meetings. When Cooke Field was transformed into the Ching Complex, there were numerous delays — hint: It rains every day in Manoa — that swelled the initial projection of $10 million to a final cost of $16 million.

With everything in motion and the funding in place, the first and final answer should be: Build the stadium in Halawa.

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10 months for demolition? Is that common for similar facilities?
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My3Cats wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:00 am 10 months for demolition? Is that common for similar facilities?
Probably longer than typical….in order to comply with State DOH & Federal EPA regulations to avoid further contaminating the site when removing any existing rusted structural steel members (which have bolted/riveted and/or welded joint connections) & rusted panel sections which were coated with hazardous lead-containing paint (which was & is still allowed for non-residential construction work).

The site is probably already contaminated to some extent with some hydraulic fluid that would have leaked out (through the course of the stadium’s 45-year operation) from the original underground hydraulic fluid reservoirs located below each of the 4 hydraulic pistons used to lift/maneuver/lower the 2 sets of removable pedestrian bridges (at both the Upper & Lower Concourse levels) located at each of the original Aloha Stadium corners.

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