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@shrek2: Never heard of that tune. The only tune I know by Eddy Grant is, "Electric Avenue" (early-'83).

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Gimme Hope Jo'anna was actually a song by Eddy Grant back in 1988 about apartheid in South Africa. The song was banned by South Africa when it first came out but it was #7 in the UK and top hit in some of the European countries but it never hit the US music charts. Jo'anna is really a reference to Johannesburg, South Africa. It was a catchy tune and although South Africa was banned from several world events because of their stand on apartheid, whenever white South African athletes participated in events the crowds would start singing the song. Sometimes the South African athletes would walk out.


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VP debate tomorrow night. Coach vs Lawyer. Neither can contradict their running mate and have to stay in their lanes.
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Walz should go toe-to-toe with Vance. Vance has a JD, Walz has a Master's degree. Yes, Vance's JD is from Yale Law School, while Walz's Master's is from Minnesota State University. Ultimately, Vance has only one more year of education than Walz does (law school is three years). Also, Walz graduated high school in 1980, while Vance graduated high school in 2002. Walz has superior life experience. I really think Walz should determine to go toe-to-toe with Vance, go after him. Thrust and parry; don't give an inch. Walz needs to stand his ground; he needs to tell himself, "I'll be damned if I allow him to defeat me". He needs to use his fighting spirit as a former high school football coach.

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Uhm...I hired a Yale student in Hawaii once. I asked her...at the interview..."What kind of school is Yule?" She replied...Yale. I hired her. She wasn't qualified to sell. Often, people from storied schools are not all that. From what I've seen of Vance's comments...he isn't.

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What irritates me a lot in some of the coverage of the campaigning is that news commentators are giving any air time to Trump's obviously stupid remarks. Like Dana Bash of CNN during the morning show, talking about Trump's remarks to Black journalists that Harris is not black. At the time, Dana Bash asked Gretchen Whitmer don't you think Kamala Harris should respond to Trump's comments? Of course, Gretchen Whitmer gave a classy response to a baited question. News commentators should just do their own fact checking and just characterize Trump's comments accordingly. Not call them stupid but just say there is no evidence to support the comments. Don't sensationalize what I view as ignorant.

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In Vance's last senatorial debate, his democratic opponent talked about why he's for abortion and cited a 10 year old impregnated during a rape. Then Vance turned that around and said it was an illegal alien so it's a immigration problem. Well, this is the point that Walz has to make and that is why did Vance not push for the border security bill? As a closing argument, Walz needs to fit in there something about how the Democratic ticket will not lie about cats and dogs being eaten to drive home about immigration.

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Would be interesting to hear if both of the candidates actually answer the questions asked by the moderators instead of skirting around the questions and citing campaign talking points. Harris and Trump left a lot of unanswered questions in their debate.
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SundayJam wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:11 am Uhm...I hired a Yale student in Hawaii once. I asked her...at the interview..."What kind of school is Yule?" She replied...Yale. I hired her. She wasn't qualified to sell. Often, people from storied schools are not all that. From what I've seen of Vance's comments...he isn't.
@SundayJam: Excellent post. Guys such as myself, who didn't attend an Ivy League school, don't have a prestigious alma mater to fall back on. I attended UH, from my freshman year. Nonetheless, it's a heavy lift for UH alumni to take-on Yale alumni.

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shrek2 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:12 am What irritates me a lot in some of the coverage of the campaigning is that news commentators are giving any air time to Trump's obviously stupid remarks. Like Dana Bash of CNN during the morning show, talking about Trump's remarks to Black journalists that Harris is not black. At the time, Dana Bash asked Gretchen Whitmer don't you think Kamala Harris should respond to Trump's comments? Of course, Gretchen Whitmer gave a classy response to a baited question. News commentators should just do their own fact checking and just characterize Trump's comments accordingly. Not call them stupid but just say there is no evidence to support the comments. Don't sensationalize what I view as ignorant.
@shrek2: Good point. CNN news commentators should remember that CNN is supposed to be left of center. Let Fox News defend Trump.

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I think that George HW, not George W Bush, was a good president. He was made famous because he said in his campaign, read my lips, I will not raise taxes but he did and he reduced the deficit. Back in 1961, the tax rate for anyone making $100K was 91%, then the Kennedys cut it to 75% for >$200K in 1963, then Reagan cut the highest tax rate from 75% to 50% with trickle down economics. Ever since then the highest tax rate has been going down to 37% for the highest income from 39.6% during the Trump administration. Bill Gates was on TV last week during an interview on climate change and he said that the rich need to pay higher taxes and even Warren Buffet came out and said he should be paying more taxes than his secretary in 2018. So, taxes are not easy to talk about because it's early death for any campaign. If Trump does not get elected the tax rate will go back to 39.6% in 2025 and he will probably get rid of the IRS agents tracking rich people who haven't paid their taxes funded by the Biden administration. Also, for Harris, anybody who makes more than $100M will be taxed on unrealized capital gains. But, talking about taxes for the Democrats would spell death for the Presidency because it may alienate a lot of people making a large income per year. This is part of the reason George HW lost besides the fact that Quayle was an idiot.

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@shrek2:
This election shouldn't even be close: Trump is a convicted rapist and a convicted felon. I can so no reason Trump should be running this strongly, other than racism.

I didn't care for George H.W. Bush. During his '88 campaign, he called someone a "card-carrying liberal", in a disparaging way. I happen to be a liberal.

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This election is more than just about racist for Trump. About two years ago, I met an older woman in her 60's grew up in Kauai, said her parents worked the plantations now living in a red state and said she loves Trump but he should keep his mouth shut some times. :lol: She was not white. I told her, well for people that felt like democracy was at stake, they had to get an old white guy to beat him. And, she said oh, you Hawaii so you democrat hah? I just smiled cause I don't tell people my politics but I listen to what other people have to say. There are a lot of black people in the South that believe the lies that Trump is telling them and all the Hispanic radio stations is Las Vegas say that most of their viewers are for Trump. So, the Trump/Vance campaign is tell the same lies over and over and eventually people will begin to believe and then double down on the lies. Vance told one tonight about the Minnesota law allows for abortion at 9mo. One of the reasons people like Trump is because he used to say drill baby drill which kept gas prices constant. Unfortunately, there are only so many dinosaurs that died.

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@shrek2:

1. That woman was somewhat silly to think that ALL Hawaii residents are Democrats. There are Democrats AND Republicans in EVERY state.
2. It may be true that a disturbing number of Blacks and Hispanics seem to support Trump. However, take comfort in the fact that, still: The majority of Blacks and Hispanics support Harris. That's been proven by national polls. I, for one, can't see why or how black and brown people would support someone who says things that are White racist. I could see if they were filthy rich; Trump gives tax breaks to the filthy rich. How many of those black and brown Trump supporters are filthy rich? The whole thing is disturbing; makes me wonder what's going-on in the minds of American voters.
3. Trump supporters believe his lies because they want to believe them. It never occurs to them to fact-check him, probably because they don't want their delusions threatened. For Trump supporters, ignorance is bliss.

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