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My3Cats wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:31 am Jacob Yoro making a case for job retention last two weeks, especially last night with a show-stopping, triple option-stopping game plan and team execution.
And then today happens 😞

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My3Cats wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:31 am Jacob Yoro making a case for job retention last two weeks, especially last night with a show-stopping, triple option-stopping game plan and team execution.
Not this week. Defense suck okole big time. Out coached and out shined!

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All the fans that thought Timmy and his coaches would outcoach the Wyoming coaches was smoking and drinking something that isn't legal!

Wyoming showed class by not running up the score and putting in the backups in the 2nd half. They had to rotate the starters in when Hawaii started to drive and score. It gave the illusion that coaching adjustments were made by Timmy and Yoro. Timmy and the coaching staff looked lost all game... most of those timeouts was because of poor situational game planning.

I don't think anybody is getting let go until after the Colorado State game.

- If Hawaii wins against Colorado State then most of the assistant coaches will still have a job.

- If Hawaii loses against Colorado State then some of the assistant coaches will still have a job.

- If Hawaii has a blowout loss against Colorado State then few of the assistant coaches will still have a job.

I think Timmy will get 1 more year because Hawaii needs to save money on the buyout. But his okole is getting 3rd degree burns on the hotseat.

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Bringing back Mark Banker as DC would be awesome.. But come next week Rocky Long may be available since Dino Baber got fired today at Syracuse
Rocky Long, an innovative defensive mind who brought the 3-3-5 defense to prominence, was hired as Syracuse's new defensive coordinator on Dec. 18, 2022.

Long - who boasts nearly 50 years of coaching experience, 20 of which came as a head coach at the FBS level - will take over a Syracuse defense that has finished in the top-30 nationally in total defense in back-to-back seasons, running the defensive scheme that he made famous.

Long's tenure spans over four decades, and includes highlights such as being the winningest head coach in Mountain West Conference history, the winningest coach in New Mexico history, and amassing the second-most wins of any coach at San Diego State and four 10-win seasons, including a stretch of three-straight, in his nine years at the helm of the Aztecs.


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Look, the make up of this whole stew goes back to the untimely firing of McMackin...and then the release of two AWESOME coordinators by the Uncle. The Uncle then hired two of his aging buddies to 'fix things'...and we endured years of Chow Ball. The Von Appen Uncle presided over a very similar era. The current situation doesn't have the same feel. Hiring Rocky Long would. Hiring Rocky Long would be similar to the re-hire of Dick Tomey. Tomey was a great hire for SJSU, but didn't make sense as a third wheel for Hawaii in his final coaching role.

I wouldn't change anything.

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When they say Norm Chow was coming home (to Hawaii), I never bought that. Home for the Chow family was never in Hawaii. California is where home is. The last dance for Dick Tomey was Hawaii. If we look at Football, Tomey is still the most successful HC in Arizona (modern) history. I don't know all 100 years of history. And yet they chase him out of town because he could never be invited to the Rose Bowl. Although Arizona is doing good this year, had successes, they still never smell the Rose Bowl. IMO, at SJ state, the (old) Tomey lost some of that fire that make him great. Hawaii was Dick Tomey's home when he spent his best football years on the mainland.

That's something special about Hawaii some often forget. When the aloha spirit touches you, you feel it in the land, air, and water. Some "haoles" (foreigners) are more, can be more Hawaiian than Hawaiians.

On the above, I'll say it, who will be after Timmy Chang? I got a feeling UH will go back to that old Formula, instead of selecting a candidate from left field.

Wagner became HC after Tomey left. Mac became HC after JJ left. After Chow, they gave the keys to Chris Naole. The past HC hiring has been a circus and PITA for UH Admins. It's easier, more stable, to promote someone to HU.

After Mac, we can all agree it could have been either Rolo or Rich Miano (agree or disagree). After Rolo it could have been Stuz, or Brian Smith. (I know both left with Rolo, but I felt get chance to bring them back with a HC offer.)

So who on T-Chang's staff you guess would be for the next HC?

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BigWave96744 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:06 pm
My3Cats wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:31 am Jacob Yoro making a case for job retention last two weeks, especially last night with a show-stopping, triple option-stopping game plan and team execution.
And then today happens 😞
Yup. Yoro almost single handedly put himself back onto the firing range.
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202Warrior wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:17 pm
My3Cats wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:31 am Jacob Yoro making a case for job retention last two weeks, especially last night with a show-stopping, triple option-stopping game plan and team execution.
Not this week. Defense suck okole big time. Out coached and out shined!
Yoro went from defensive hero to defensive goat (not GOAT) in one minute of play. Then things got even more worse thereafter.
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Really hope Timmy brings in a run and shoot play caller/OC. Brian Smith or Stutz would be great. If Petrino can back to Arkansas as OC, we can get Rolo back as OC 😂😂

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I seem to recall that Brian Smith's offensive play calling was particularly boring when he called plays at UH. I don't know if he was the play caller at Ohio University, but he was not the offensive coordinator. Ohio University site shows him as the Associate Head Coach, Running Backs Coach and Passing Game Coordinator. Their offense topped 30 points only three times, despite having a 9-3 season.
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I really hope any new coaches are announced by next Monday (after conf championship weekend) to excite potential recruits "To Sign" in December instead of "May Sign"

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I have a feeling all coaches will be returning as they are all out recruiting and doing home visits

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BigWave96744 wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:00 am I have a feeling all coaches will be returning as they are all out recruiting and doing home visits

So disappointing. We really need a new OC. The defense needs to be more consistent and disciplined as well

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If Shoe is being retained, I hope that he has been learning the intricacies of the run and shoot, which he can meld in with his prior offensive experience. A pure run and shoot would not be effective, and UH's offense showed RPO mixed in with RNS in the latter part of the season.
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Who ever runs the offense, please do not say the damn RNS takes 2-3 years to learn. That's the most lame excuse now days. Work with who you have. Coaches get fired after 2-3 years of losing.

If TC is sticking with Shoe, then let it be. Can't be calling Rolo, June or Morrison every time you start losing.

Same with other position coaches.
They getting paid good money to out a consistent product.

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