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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#61 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:49 am

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#62 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:51 am

EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:52 am
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I think it’s funny that you don’t see the hypocrisy in all this. And real funny that you’re blatantly avoiding naming your news sources. If you can’t see that, then you are the problem.
Hypocrisy in what exactly? Are my numbers incorrect? My news sources are NOT mainstream media (and that includes FOX), that's all you need to know. All you do is come back with bad humor and childish comments like a middle schooler. Your debate game needs work.
Hypocrisy in what??? So you established that you don’t like the establishment/swamp right, but yet you support a guy who has taken over said swamp, does the exact same thing and made it bigger and more prominent than ever.

Also.......... again...........what’s your news sources?
Please state how he is doing the same thing as the career politicians, and how he's made it worse?

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#63 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:54 am

shrek2 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:20 am
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:45 am
shrek2 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:16 am

Are resorting to insults to win a discussion? I ask you for a point of reference and you give me more BS. EITSwarrior asks you for your news source and you avoid any news source. Critical thinking still requires references from sources not just "take my word for it." You have to have definitions before you can speak more intelligently. Quote your source.
As this thread continues, I'm just stating what seem apparent in regards to your thinking capability. My point of reference was given to you when I said the establishment were "career politicians". You might want to follow along with the thread before you enter into someone else's conversation too. His request for my news sources was in general, and not for the net worth numbers I posted. You want to check the numbers, feel free to do so. There's this thing called Google.
You are judging my ability to think critically.
Your point of reference is your truth or your definition not a point of reference.
You never answered EITSwarrior's question about what your news sources were so he could also have your point of reference in your news and you never answered.

So, its all about your truth, your news, your views as unbiased as they are.
Ok, so we're clear, when I say the "establishment", I mean career politicians. It still doesn't make my numbers incorrect, or my point invalid. The numbers can easily be looked up. You never answered if those net worth numbers would bother you.

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https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#64 Post by shrek2 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:10 am

Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:54 am
shrek2 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:20 am
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:45 am


As this thread continues, I'm just stating what seem apparent in regards to your thinking capability. My point of reference was given to you when I said the establishment were "career politicians". You might want to follow along with the thread before you enter into someone else's conversation too. His request for my news sources was in general, and not for the net worth numbers I posted. You want to check the numbers, feel free to do so. There's this thing called Google.
You are judging my ability to think critically.
Your point of reference is your truth or your definition not a point of reference.
You never answered EITSwarrior's question about what your news sources were so he could also have your point of reference in your news and you never answered.

So, its all about your truth, your news, your views as unbiased as they are.
Ok, so we're clear, when I say the "establishment", I mean career politicians. It still doesn't make my numbers incorrect, or my point invalid. The numbers can easily be looked up. You never answered if those net worth numbers would bother you.

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0 ... ZYqLCa9mng
I never asked for the net worth numbers and I really don't want to look them up. Interesting news source. Differing views of the world. Isn't it great that we have the first amendment?

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#65 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:19 am

shrek2 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:10 am
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:54 am
shrek2 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:20 am

You are judging my ability to think critically.
Your point of reference is your truth or your definition not a point of reference.
You never answered EITSwarrior's question about what your news sources were so he could also have your point of reference in your news and you never answered.

So, its all about your truth, your news, your views as unbiased as they are.
Ok, so we're clear, when I say the "establishment", I mean career politicians. It still doesn't make my numbers incorrect, or my point invalid. The numbers can easily be looked up. You never answered if those net worth numbers would bother you.

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0 ... ZYqLCa9mng
I never asked for the net worth numbers and I really don't want to look them up. Interesting news source. Differing views of the world. Isn't it great that we have the first amendment?
Entertain just the thought that those numbers might be true. That doesn't bother you? That would be the root of what is wrong with the politicians in our country. Or do you just choose to ignore it because it implicates some Democrats? Mind you, there are a ton of corrupt Republicans out there as well.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#66 Post by shrek2 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:57 am

Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:19 am
shrek2 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:10 am
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:54 am


Ok, so we're clear, when I say the "establishment", I mean career politicians. It still doesn't make my numbers incorrect, or my point invalid. The numbers can easily be looked up. You never answered if those net worth numbers would bother you.

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0 ... ZYqLCa9mng
I never asked for the net worth numbers and I really don't want to look them up. Interesting news source. Differing views of the world. Isn't it great that we have the first amendment?
Entertain just the thought that those numbers might be true. That doesn't bother you? That would be the root of what is wrong with the politicians in our country. Or do you just choose to ignore it because it implicates some Democrats? Mind you, there are a ton of corrupt Republicans out there as well.
People are rich in this country because the oligarchy, Democratic or Republican, influence what goes on in politics. In 1960, the federal income tax rate for wage earners making > $200K was 91%. Then in 1964, it was changed to 70% for >$100K. That took another big hit when Regan came in with his trickle down economics. That dropped the rate from 70% to 50%. Today its 36%. So, people that make a lot of money will increase their net worth because of tax laws. The tax laws bother me more than looking at what Zuckerberg's net worth is.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#67 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:07 pm

While true to an extent, the math doesn't add up. It's obvious they were laundering money through NGO's, and taking pay to play deals.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#68 Post by EITSwarrior » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:43 pm

Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:51 am
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:52 am
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:56 am


Hypocrisy in what exactly? Are my numbers incorrect? My news sources are NOT mainstream media (and that includes FOX), that's all you need to know. All you do is come back with bad humor and childish comments like a middle schooler. Your debate game needs work.
Hypocrisy in what??? So you established that you don’t like the establishment/swamp right, but yet you support a guy who has taken over said swamp, does the exact same thing and made it bigger and more prominent than ever.

Also.......... again...........what’s your news sources?
Please state how he is doing the same thing as the career politicians, and how he's made it worse?

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0 ... ZYqLCa9mng
Finally was that so hard. Ok you right, we don’t share the same sources 😂😂😂. Like shrek2 said “interesting” to say the least. 😂

And while your news sources may be “independent”, they cater their stories to their users, for money, just like the big dogs do. So take “your” news with a grain of salt.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#69 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:31 pm

EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:43 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:51 am
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:52 am


Hypocrisy in what??? So you established that you don’t like the establishment/swamp right, but yet you support a guy who has taken over said swamp, does the exact same thing and made it bigger and more prominent than ever.

Also.......... again...........what’s your news sources?
Please state how he is doing the same thing as the career politicians, and how he's made it worse?

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0 ... ZYqLCa9mng
Finally was that so hard. Ok you right, we don’t share the same sources 😂😂😂. Like shrek2 said “interesting” to say the least. 😂

And while your news sources may be “independent”, they cater their stories to their users, for money, just like the big dogs do. So take “your” news with a grain of salt.
According to Business Insider, 90% of the American mainstream media is owned by only 6 corporations, meaning your news is filtered by highly powerful interests who are often closely connected to large corporations and politicians – and won’t report anything negative about them, even if it’s in the public’s interests.

Think objectively, both sides claim that the other is being brainwashed. Who is more likely being brainwashed, the 90% watching MSM, which is owned by a handful of corporations, AND have been proven to have lied repeatedly, or the 10% who get their news from independent sources? I'll take my chances with the 10%, 24/7/365.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#70 Post by EITSwarrior » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:01 pm

Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:31 pm
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:43 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:51 am


Please state how he is doing the same thing as the career politicians, and how he's made it worse?

Here are some independent media that I use. Happy now?
https://theantimedia.com/
https://wearechange.org/
https://truthinmedia.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0 ... ZYqLCa9mng
Finally was that so hard. Ok you right, we don’t share the same sources 😂😂😂. Like shrek2 said “interesting” to say the least. 😂

And while your news sources may be “independent”, they cater their stories to their users, for money, just like the big dogs do. So take “your” news with a grain of salt.
According to Business Insider, 90% of the American mainstream media is owned by only 6 corporations, meaning your news is filtered by highly powerful interests who are often closely connected to large corporations and politicians – and won’t report anything negative about them, even if it’s in the public’s interests.

Think objectively, both sides claim that the other is being brainwashed. Who is more likely being brainwashed, the 90% watching MSM, which is owned by a handful of corporations, AND have been proven to have lied repeatedly, or the 10% who get their news from independent sources? I'll take my chances with the 10%, 24/7/365.
So are you saying your “news” sources haven’t lied?

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#71 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:06 pm

EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:01 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:31 pm
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:43 pm


Finally was that so hard. Ok you right, we don’t share the same sources 😂😂😂. Like shrek2 said “interesting” to say the least. 😂

And while your news sources may be “independent”, they cater their stories to their users, for money, just like the big dogs do. So take “your” news with a grain of salt.
According to Business Insider, 90% of the American mainstream media is owned by only 6 corporations, meaning your news is filtered by highly powerful interests who are often closely connected to large corporations and politicians – and won’t report anything negative about them, even if it’s in the public’s interests.

Think objectively, both sides claim that the other is being brainwashed. Who is more likely being brainwashed, the 90% watching MSM, which is owned by a handful of corporations, AND have been proven to have lied repeatedly, or the 10% who get their news from independent sources? I'll take my chances with the 10%, 24/7/365.
So are you saying your “news” sources haven’t lied?
Well, I haven't caught them in a lie yet. I can't tell you the endless amount of times the MSM has lied and been caught. In the USA, it is actually legal to lie in the news. The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects freedom of speech, and courts in the US have ruled on many occasions that freedom of speech also includes the freedom to lie. The rationale is that such rulings give space for unpopular statements of fact.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#72 Post by EITSwarrior » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm

Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:06 pm
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:01 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:31 pm


According to Business Insider, 90% of the American mainstream media is owned by only 6 corporations, meaning your news is filtered by highly powerful interests who are often closely connected to large corporations and politicians – and won’t report anything negative about them, even if it’s in the public’s interests.

Think objectively, both sides claim that the other is being brainwashed. Who is more likely being brainwashed, the 90% watching MSM, which is owned by a handful of corporations, AND have been proven to have lied repeatedly, or the 10% who get their news from independent sources? I'll take my chances with the 10%, 24/7/365.
So are you saying your “news” sources haven’t lied?
Well, I haven't caught them in a lie yet. I can't tell you the endless amount of times the MSM has lied and been caught. In the USA, it is actually legal to lie in the news. The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects freedom of speech, and courts in the US have ruled on many occasions that freedom of speech also includes the freedom to lie. The rationale is that such rulings give space for unpopular statements of fact.
Really? Not one lie? Well do you know who Ben Swann is?

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#73 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:18 pm

EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:06 pm
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:01 pm


So are you saying your “news” sources haven’t lied?
Well, I haven't caught them in a lie yet. I can't tell you the endless amount of times the MSM has lied and been caught. In the USA, it is actually legal to lie in the news. The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects freedom of speech, and courts in the US have ruled on many occasions that freedom of speech also includes the freedom to lie. The rationale is that such rulings give space for unpopular statements of fact.
Really? Not one lie? Well do you know who Ben Swann is?
Why do you say really? I said I haven't caught them in a lie, unlike the MSM. Ben Swann, as in Truth in Media, yes of course.

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#74 Post by EITSwarrior » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:57 pm

Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:18 pm
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:06 pm


Well, I haven't caught them in a lie yet. I can't tell you the endless amount of times the MSM has lied and been caught. In the USA, it is actually legal to lie in the news. The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects freedom of speech, and courts in the US have ruled on many occasions that freedom of speech also includes the freedom to lie. The rationale is that such rulings give space for unpopular statements of fact.
Really? Not one lie? Well do you know who Ben Swann is?
Why do you say really? I said I haven't caught them in a lie, unlike the MSM. Ben Swann, as in Truth in Media, yes of course.
Do you know his continued push for “Pizzagate” and Sandy Hook even when those theories were debunked?

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Re: Cost of Obama's vacation

#75 Post by Parkpill » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:25 pm

EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:57 pm
Parkpill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:18 pm
EITSwarrior wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm


Really? Not one lie? Well do you know who Ben Swann is?
Why do you say really? I said I haven't caught them in a lie, unlike the MSM. Ben Swann, as in Truth in Media, yes of course.
Do you know his continued push for “Pizzagate” and Sandy Hook even when those theories were debunked?
Who debunked it? If you think pedophilia and child trafficking isn't a HUGE problem worldwide, then your news sources haven't been keeping you informed. All you need to do is look toward Hollywood, it's sexual deviants, and child actors that have come forward to know what's going on. I bet you didn't know that the NSA/CSS's authentic Twitter account once tweeted this exact message on December 4, 2016 - 11:48am:
#pizzagate is real. Do not give up the citizen investigation. This tweet will be deleted. pre-commitment: John Podesta 4bb96075acadc3d80b5

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