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shrek2 wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:33 pm Trump downplayed Covid-19 when he received probably the best care possible from Walter Reed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... r-BB19Lf7f
On Monday evening, Trump tweeted that he’s feeling “better than I did 20 years ago” and added, “don’t be afraid of COVID.” And on Tuesday morning, he tweeted: “Flu season is coming up! Many people every year, sometimes over 100,000, and despite the Vaccine, die from the Flu. Are we going to close down our Country? No, we have learned to live with it, just like we are learning to live with Covid, in most populations far less lethal!!!”
How can one lousy President cause so much problems with this pandemic. He wants to take the country down with him. Meanwhile experts have to contradict what he says by telling people that Covid is not like the FLU.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp
Get out of the way and quit undermining the democracy on which this country was founded on! Let the experts and the people that care about the American public take over!

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Steve Bannon and Chinese billionaire manufactured news that China created virus.
https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-chi ... 03276.html
It would be Fox News that jumped on this causing anti-Chinese sentiment. That's why I don't watch Fox news. Dr Yan is the Chinese doctor who was used to spread the rumor.
Yan’s trajectory was carefully crafted by Guo Wengui, a fugitive Chinese billionaire, and Steve Bannon, a former adviser to Trump.

They put Yan on a plane to the United States, gave her a place to stay, coached her on media appearances and helped her secure interviews with popular conservative television hosts like Tucker Carlson and Lou Dobbs, who have shows on Fox. They nurtured her seemingly deep belief that the virus was genetically engineered, uncritically embracing what she provided as proof.

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shrek2 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:42 am Steve Bannon and Chinese billionaire manufactured news that China created virus.
https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-chi ... 03276.html
It would be Fox News that jumped on this causing anti-Chinese sentiment. That's why I don't watch Fox news. Dr Yan is the Chinese doctor who was used to spread the rumor.
Yan’s trajectory was carefully crafted by Guo Wengui, a fugitive Chinese billionaire, and Steve Bannon, a former adviser to Trump.

They put Yan on a plane to the United States, gave her a place to stay, coached her on media appearances and helped her secure interviews with popular conservative television hosts like Tucker Carlson and Lou Dobbs, who have shows on Fox. They nurtured her seemingly deep belief that the virus was genetically engineered, uncritically embracing what she provided as proof.
Be careful in your observations. China is the source of this pandemic. Silencing the media by calling them 'fake news' is just as dangerous in the west as in China. Well, except in China...you and your family can be disappeared. AT the same time, it is just as unlikely that China would deliberately spread the virus as Trump would do so in order to kill Democratically sympathetic states. Heck, Trump's denials produced outbreaks in Republican states and in his own White House. Neither leader cares who dies. They only wanted to lighten up the ball. They only wanted to keep the party going. Dance...people...dance. By ignoring the obvious dangers, they knowingly killed many and hamstrung the global economy. The cure cannot be worse than the disease was their mentality. Well, their ignorance has been far worse than the disease. People are not inherently evil anywhere.

Science matters. I live in a relatively primitive nation...one could accurately imagine 'The King and I" as representative of the naivete that embodies contemporary ideals here. Still, the idiots in charge here put science first. We do not have Covid-19 infections here. The domestic economy is wide-open.

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SundayJam wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:42 am
shrek2 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:42 am Steve Bannon and Chinese billionaire manufactured news that China created virus.
https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-chi ... 03276.html
It would be Fox News that jumped on this causing anti-Chinese sentiment. That's why I don't watch Fox news. Dr Yan is the Chinese doctor who was used to spread the rumor.
Yan’s trajectory was carefully crafted by Guo Wengui, a fugitive Chinese billionaire, and Steve Bannon, a former adviser to Trump.

They put Yan on a plane to the United States, gave her a place to stay, coached her on media appearances and helped her secure interviews with popular conservative television hosts like Tucker Carlson and Lou Dobbs, who have shows on Fox. They nurtured her seemingly deep belief that the virus was genetically engineered, uncritically embracing what she provided as proof.
Be careful in your observations. China is the source of this pandemic. Silencing the media by calling them 'fake news' is just as dangerous in the west as in China. Well, except in China...you and your family can be disappeared. AT the same time, it is just as unlikely that China would deliberately spread the virus as Trump would do so in order to kill Democratically sympathetic states. Heck, Trump's denials produced outbreaks in Republican states and in his own White House. Neither leader cares who dies. They only wanted to lighten up the ball. They only wanted to keep the party going. Dance...people...dance. By ignoring the obvious dangers, they knowingly killed many and hamstrung the global economy. The cure cannot be worse than the disease was their mentality. Well, their ignorance has been far worse than the disease. People are not inherently evil anywhere.

Science matters. I live in a relatively primitive nation...one could accurately imagine 'The King and I" as representative of the naivete that embodies contemporary ideals here. Still, the idiots in charge here put science first. We do not have Covid-19 infections here. The domestic economy is wide-open.
The point of the article is to point out that China created the virus in the laboratory which hasn't been proved or disproved. Whichever way it was created, one would assume that if China created the virus they would not test it on their own citizens in Wuhan but test it out on US or other Western nations. The fact that Steve Bannon and the Chinese billionaire created this conspiracy theory only fueled the fire for attacks against Chinese and Asians in the United States.

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Yes, but the false vilification of Xi does not excuse his actual villainy. He knowingly promoted global travel by Chinese citizens at a time when caution was the sensible choice. I saw Chinese visitors with their goggles and face-masks, en-mass, touring my city in January and February. I've never seen anything like it. Xi's government worked hard to ignore the problem originated in its own country. China was the first to silence science in 2020. Trump had the knowledge of the virus well before it became a problem here and chose to ignore it. Trump continues the madness. Trump and Xi are one and the same.

Trump knowingly killed hundreds of thousands of Americans to boost his chance for re-election. He doesn't care if the affected are Republican or Democrat.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-paid-sev ... 36858.html

The Republican party and Trump have been the only 'fake news' story over the past 20 years. I object to President-elect Joe Biden's offer of an olive leaf to the Republican party. I sincerely hope that NO Republicans are appointed to his team. I sincerely hope that the two Senate seats up for grabs in Georgia will be Democratic. America needs to breathe again.

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Former president Barrack Obama shares his view of handling of the pandemic with Stephen Colbert.


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An article about the interview reiterates what was said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-tel ... 2c19ef33b4
As Trump continues to deny that he legitimately lost to Biden, Colbert reminded Obama about the gracious way he invited his successor into the White House for a meeting and photo-op shortly after the 2016 election. The host said it was a “chilling moment” to watch because he had an “emotional flash” of all the ways Trump could abuse the “dignity of the office” over his first term. “Were you having a similar feeling in that moment?” he asked.

“Yeah, it was a concern,” Obama answered. When Colbert asked if those concerns were “borne out,” Obama said they were “exceeded.”
Thank God we don't have to deal with name calling during the second wave of this pandemic.

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Even though the election is over, people are still suffering from the pandemic by having freedoms of going to a restaurant, going to a gym, not being able to Christmas shop, etc. but yet Trump just adds to people's frustration by more name calling and hate mongering.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgdhp
Time for Trump and his family to get out of the way so that people can live with the new normal without having to deal with added stress.

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By politicizing the pandemic, Republicans have doomed America to a seemingly endless cycle of closures. Heck, America may not have ever been affected by this pandemic. The cure is not worse than the disease here. The cure is not worse in many countries around the world. It is only bad here because the world hasn't followed scientific methods to tame this beast.

My message is this to Republican deniers: take your medicine and be done with the closures. Wear a mask. Abstain from bars, gyms, and restaurants...for 2 weeks. That's all it takes. Why did you wait 10 months to man-up? Seriously, man-up and take your medicine. Stop whining like ignorant babies.



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The IRS and the SSA has the worst people working for them and it starts from the top. It was not long ago (maybe 10 years ago) that the SSA showed their volumes of tape stored data in this huge warehouse (yes, that's 2400 reel tapes 1960s). It's no wonder that the IRS and SSA have made faux pas like the one below regarding stimulus checks.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets ... d=msedgntp
Government failure at its worst but still at the top, they can't work on a stimulus bill just more complaints about the election. Geez, get with it guys. It's like the Sopranos, its ovah. - line from Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-scienc ... 14923.html
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Trump science adviser Scott Atlas leaving White House job
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Tue, December 1, 2020, 7:58 AM GMT+7

WASHINGTON (AP) — Dr. Scott Atlas, a science adviser to President Donald Trump who was skeptical of measures to control the coronavirus outbreak, is leaving his White House post.

A White House official confirmed that the Stanford University neuroradiologist, who had no formal experience in public health or infectious diseases, resigned at the end of his temporary government assignment. Atlas confirmed the news in a Monday evening tweet.

Atlas joined the White House this summer, where he clashed with top government scientists, including Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, as he resisted stronger efforts to contain the COVID-19 pandemic that has killed more than 267,000 Americans.

Atlas has broken with government experts and the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community to criticize efforts to encourage face covering to slow the spread of the virus. Just weeks ago on Twitter he responded to Michigan's latest virus restrictions by encouraging people to “rise up” against the state's policies.
Trump's handling of the Covid crisis has been down-right criminal. Trump's entire administration has been a joke. The wall...the trade war...the nepotism and cronyism...the truly fake news...have all contributed to a much weaker America.

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Sooo, Scott Atlas can go back to taking xrays. And, we can get real infectious disease experts at the WH.

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Trumpty Dumpty wanted a crown...written by John Lithgow last March...recited today by the author. Sure, I know the cult of Trump will say Lithgow is an elite. Trump is too...only his daddy made him that. I hope a finger tap to the brow will awaken the Republican personality cultists. The cult of Trump is real.

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All I can say at this point is Trump needs to get the flock out of the way along with all his cult members. Time to move on. Get a job. New president. Like in the movie "American President," Annette Benning says how can someone say that they love America and not love Americans. The pandemic is not over! Do the job and get out of the way! Quit adding to the horrors of the second wave.

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So, really... Kristi Noem is mocking President elect Joe Biden because he says help is on the way? Why not complaint to the current POTUS you freaking idiot or why not do something to stop the spread?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgdhp

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