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OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:24 am
by uhwarriors
When he was hired, I heard he would be hard to keep here for long. I was hoping for at least one more season so the offense wouldn't have a new OC for three years straight. Malzahn is part of Graham's coaching tree as are Morris and Norvell.
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1363564771593846786

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:29 am
by Irse
I was hoping for another year too.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:42 am
by shrek2
Wasn't Beau calling the plays from the booth? Like to see Graham pick up one of his guys that can help the QB/receiver spots. Maybe JJ consult?

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:00 pm
by Palolo_2LA
I'd like to see a RnS OC. Can they bump offer for Touchdown Timmy to get him away from Nevada?

Plus, Papa JJ is on island. Quality control offensive position open?

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:46 pm
by kapakahi
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:42 amMaybe JJ consult?
Palolo_2LA wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:00 pm I'd like to see a RnS OC. Can they bump offer for Touchdown Timmy to get him away from Nevada?

Plus, Papa JJ is on island. Quality control offensive position open?
No way Coach Graham goes to a RnS-based offense....nor would JJ be in the picture (especially if he's not calling the offensive plays). Coach Graham & JJ are just from different offensive coaching philosophies (from different coaching trees). Graham's ideal offense employs an up-tempo no-huddle run-heavy package with a TE/H-back....while JJ would just assume not ever run the ball. Even Rolo's RnS offense incorporated the RPO package (from Brian Smith & Stutz)....while JJ is pure RnS.

Hopefully TC is considered by Coach Graham and vice versa.....since now also need a QB coach....even if Bo Graham still calls the offensive plays. But Jay Norvell might even try to bump up TC's pay even more to keep him with Nevada now that his WR coach defected to MWC West rival San Jose State.
https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/footb ... -chang/948 https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/1363172990851031043 '

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:21 pm
by shrek2
kapakahi wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:46 pm
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:42 amMaybe JJ consult?
Palolo_2LA wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:00 pm I'd like to see a RnS OC. Can they bump offer for Touchdown Timmy to get him away from Nevada?

Plus, Papa JJ is on island. Quality control offensive position open?
Hopefully TC is considered by Coach Graham and vice versa.....since now also need a QB coach....even if Bo Graham still calls the offensive plays.
https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/footb ... -chang/948

But no way Coach Graham goes to a RnS-based offense....nor would JJ be in the picture (especially if he's not calling the offensive plays). Coach Graham & JJ are just from different offensive coaching philosophies (from different coaching trees). Graham's ideal offense employs an up-tempo no-huddle run-heavy package with a TE/H-back....while JJ would just assume not ever run the ball. Even Rolo's RnS offense incorporated the RPO package (from Brian Smith & Stutz)....while JJ is pure RnS.
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I think if TC comes back to UH after only moving up from coaching inside receivers to tight ends, I would probably stop watching UH football. I hope he gets more seasoning at Nevada and maybe becomes the QB coach before any thoughts of him coming into the UH coaching staff.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 pm
by BigWave96744
What about University of Miami WR coach Rob Lickens who was Graham's OC at Arizona St and let go by Herm Edwards?

Like the other thread, there is still Kim McCloud on staff :-

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:43 pm
by kapakahi
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:21 pm
I think if TC comes back to UH after only moving up from coaching inside receivers to tight ends, I would probably stop watching UH football. I hope he gets more seasoning at Nevada and maybe becomes the QB coach before any thoughts of him coming into the UH coaching staff.
Not even considering his past 4 seasons with Nevada, TC's coaching experience is already comparable to that of Craig Stutzmann before he joined UH for his 4 seasons (2016 thru 2019) as the QB coach.

https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/footb ... -chang/948
Chang came to Reno after spending the 2016 season as the offensive coordinator at Emory and Henry College.
Prior to Emory and Henry, Chang spent two seasons at Jackson State University in Jackson, Miss.
2016: Off. Coordinator, Emory & Henry
2014-15: Off. Coordinator/QBs, Jackson State
https://hawaiiathletics.com/sports/foot ... zmann/1961
Came to UH from Emory & Henry College in Emory, Va., where he served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for two seasons (2014-15).
Prior to E&H, spent two years at Weber State in Ogden, Utah, where he coached the receivers.
Coach Graham will ultimately decide whether TC's coaching experience makes him a worthy QB coach candidate or not.....whether you choose to stop watching UH football or not.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:54 pm
by kapakahi
BigWave96744 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 pm What about University of Miami WR coach Rob Lickens who was Graham's OC at Arizona St and let go by Herm Edwards?
Wonder what Coach Graham's relationship is like with Lickens (who was on his ASU staff for his last 2 seasons) who stayed on with Edwards for his first season at ASU in 2018 (before being let go). Hmmm.....

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:05 pm
by shrek2
kapakahi wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:43 pm
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:21 pm
I think if TC comes back to UH after only moving up from coaching inside receivers to tight ends, I would probably stop watching UH football. I hope he gets more seasoning at Nevada and maybe becomes the QB coach before any thoughts of him coming into the UH coaching staff.
Coach Graham will ultimately decide whether TC's coaching experience makes him a worthy QB coach candidate or not.....whether you choose to stop watching UH football or not.
That's a given. As Vince Vaughn says in his movies, "I'm just sayin'," That's not really meant to be a threat, just me saying there's enough sports for me to watch without putting UH on the top of my list.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:11 pm
by kapakahi
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:05 pm
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:21 pm
I think if TC comes back to UH after only moving up from coaching inside receivers to tight ends, I would probably stop watching UH football. I hope he gets more seasoning at Nevada and maybe becomes the QB coach before any thoughts of him coming into the UH coaching staff.
As Vince Vaughn says in his movies, "I'm just sayin'," That's not really meant to be a threat, just me saying there's enough sports for me to watch without putting UH on the top of my list.
Implication was that UH football would be off your list altogether....off the bottom of it.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:51 am
by gpmcconnell
Could Chad Morris be a candidate? Coach Graham hired him at Tulsa and I believe he is still be paid by Arkansas.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:50 am
by Irse
kapakahi wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:54 pm
BigWave96744 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 pm What about University of Miami WR coach Rob Lickens who was Graham's OC at Arizona St and let go by Herm Edwards?
Wonder what Coach Graham's relationship is like with Lickens (who was on his ASU staff for his last 2 seasons) who stayed on with Edwards for his first season at ASU in 2018 (before being let go). Hmmm.....
If as a WR coach, I don't see him stepping downwards from a P5 school to a G6 school.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:48 pm
by Palolo_2LA
kapakahi wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:43 pm
shrek2 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:21 pm
I think if TC comes back to UH after only moving up from coaching inside receivers to tight ends, I would probably stop watching UH football. I hope he gets more seasoning at Nevada and maybe becomes the QB coach before any thoughts of him coming into the UH coaching staff.
Not even considering his past 4 seasons with Nevada, TC's coaching experience is already comparable to that of Craig Stutzmann before he joined UH for his 4 seasons (2016 thru 2019) as the QB coach.

https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/footb ... -chang/948
Chang came to Reno after spending the 2016 season as the offensive coordinator at Emory and Henry College.
Prior to Emory and Henry, Chang spent two seasons at Jackson State University in Jackson, Miss.
2016: Off. Coordinator, Emory & Henry
2014-15: Off. Coordinator/QBs, Jackson State
https://hawaiiathletics.com/sports/foot ... zmann/1961
Came to UH from Emory & Henry College in Emory, Va., where he served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for two seasons (2014-15).
Prior to E&H, spent two years at Weber State in Ogden, Utah, where he coached the receivers.
Coach Graham will ultimately decide whether TC's coaching experience makes him a worthy QB coach candidate or not.....whether you choose to stop watching UH football or not.
Touchdown Timmy's offensive stats speak for themselves. Years of experience mean nothing without results.

Re: OC GJ Kinne to UCF

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:03 pm
by RedZone
TC’s current HC thinks very highly of him. I would be happy to see him given a shot here.