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Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:24 pm
by cabanalane
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How do we fix this? How long will it take?

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:40 pm
by stranger_808
Lower ticket price, parking. Give discounts for families, have specials for concessions etc...bus the UH students to the Aloha Stadium tunnel, no need for them to wait outside in a long line. Give out coupon for free hotdog and drink for UH students.

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:21 pm
by ulua
cabanalane wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:24 pm Image

How do we fix this? How long will it take?
My guess is New Stadium, don’t think people want to spend all that money attending games at a rust bucket where the floors are rusted and has holes and the water doesn’t work, they probably would rather spend their money on other things

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:25 pm
by Diamonded1
Agree get the UH students to the Stadium and offer there free food. 30,000 -40,000 fans better than a empty stadium . Like the pre Chow days . Need more community involvement. Pullman Washington has a population of less than 35,000 and still fill there stadium . Oahu has over one million people no reason the stadium cannot be more filled that a 10-5 team did this year .

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:34 pm
by BigWave96744
Diamonded1 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:25 pm Agree get the UH students to the Stadium and offer there free food. 30,000 -40,000 fans better than a empty stadium . Like the pre Chow days . Need more community involvement. Pullman Washington has a population of less than 35,000 and still fill there stadium . Oahu has over one million people no reason the stadium cannot be more filled that a 10-5 team did this year .
There is nothing else to do in Pullman, it's a typical college town.

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:42 pm
by Diamonded1
Agree too
But UH football is only 6-8 games a year and
UH vs BYU typically draws 40,000 plus in Tomey and Jones years . We play BYU this year in the Hawaii bowl and only draw 15,000 . Something is wrong . Granted it’s Christmas Eve. I’m sure Rolo was amazed at the crowds at WSU 6-7 vs a 10-5Hawaii . Coach Rolo could never fill the Stadium .

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:09 pm
by EITSwarrior
Don’t know if it can be fixed. On a island and city with so much more to do and many different and easier ways to watch a game it will be hard to get the crowds back. There are ways it can be done, but I don’t know if there’s the want and ability to do it not just from the school and government, but from the general population as well.

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:20 pm
by Palolo_2LA
There are tons of reasons and looking to resolve the largest is important-
1A) the stadium experience blows and we obviously need a smaller, innovative new stadium
1B) Hawaii's cost of living is high and many don't have extra mula to spend, so there needs to be deals
2) the parking, food, drinks are steep, especially if you take your family 4x tix, food, drinks. How do we make prices where vendors make money and families don't need a loan to take family out?
3) ppl prefer to host at their house and kickback
4) the Tourism authority needs to be an active member with an open check book. When the program is winning, theres a ton of free exposure to the state and its beauty is always highlighted
5) Get the business school, marketing dept and have them run real world marketing campaigns

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:37 pm
by BigWave96744
HAWAII FANS DON'T BUY INTO THE BS
Wazzu doesn't sellout every game and they aren't a premier Football Fanbase.
They will no doubt draw big in year 1, but consider prior to 2019, Leach went to 5 straight Bowls, won 11 games but still couldn't draw 30K in 2 straight games to open the season.

For $3Mil, fans will expect
- Winning the Apple Cup... Leach only won his first Apple Cup, then lost 7 straight
- Trips to the Rose Bowl... Leach went to none
- Win the Pac12... Leach never did
- Contend for the National Title... :lol:
WSU’s back-to-back, sunny Saturday home tilts to start the 2019 campaign marked the first back-to-back sub-30,000 games since 2013 (the New Mexico State opener drew 27,228) and the first sub-30 games in the month of September since before Mike Leach’s arrival on the Palouse.

“Yes, they were fighting Labor Day getaways last week and, yes, Northern Colorado,” he writes. “But the Cougs are always going to play an FCS opponent; perhaps they just need to make sure it’s Eastern Washington or Idaho as often as possible.”

This, he notes, is on the heels of 1) the winningest season in program history; 2) four-straight bowl seasons and a 93.4 percent Martin Stadium occupancy rate in that timeframe; and 3) a glossy 91 percent renewal rate among season ticket holders.


“Slippage at the gate,” writes the man whose affinity for Minnesota Twins caps still puzzles the masses, is a national trend — and Cougarville is falling in line.
https://247sports.com/college/washingto ... 135415418/

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:45 pm
by Irse
BigWave96744 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:37 pm HAWAII FANS DON'T BUY INTO THE BS
Wazzu doesn't sellout every game and they aren't a premier Football Fanbase.
They will no doubt draw big in year 1, but consider prior to 2019, Leach went to 5 straight Bowls, won 11 games but still couldn't draw 30K in 2 straight games to open the season.

For $3Mil, fans will expect
- Winning the Apple Cup... Leach only won his first Apple Cup, then lost 7 straight
- Trips to the Rose Bowl... Leach went to none
- Win the Pac12... Leach never did
- Contend for the National Title... :lol:
WSU’s back-to-back, sunny Saturday home tilts to start the 2019 campaign marked the first back-to-back sub-30,000 games since 2013 (the New Mexico State opener drew 27,228) and the first sub-30 games in the month of September since before Mike Leach’s arrival on the Palouse.

“Yes, they were fighting Labor Day getaways last week and, yes, Northern Colorado,” he writes. “But the Cougs are always going to play an FCS opponent; perhaps they just need to make sure it’s Eastern Washington or Idaho as often as possible.”

This, he notes, is on the heels of 1) the winningest season in program history; 2) four-straight bowl seasons and a 93.4 percent Martin Stadium occupancy rate in that timeframe; and 3) a glossy 91 percent renewal rate among season ticket holders.


“Slippage at the gate,” writes the man whose affinity for Minnesota Twins caps still puzzles the masses, is a national trend — and Cougarville is falling in line.
https://247sports.com/college/washingto ... 135415418/
Didn't Leach get paid mmore than what Rolo is getting paid? So they want more for less.

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:02 pm
by poidog
Attendance is down nearly everywhere...

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/24/75396260 ... -football

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:43 pm
by couz808
The rail will fix it \:D/

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:53 pm
by Diamonded1
Correct
Leach got $4 million a year with a $750k bonus after 2020 season . You are correct about expectations at WSU . If not met after three years Rolo will be on the hot seat . Being .500 in the pac 12 what another viewer wrote and 4-7 wins a year estimate not good enough .

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:07 pm
by BigWave96744
Irse wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:45 pm
BigWave96744 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:37 pm HAWAII FANS DON'T BUY INTO THE BS
Wazzu doesn't sellout every game and they aren't a premier Football Fanbase.
They will no doubt draw big in year 1, but consider prior to 2019, Leach went to 5 straight Bowls, won 11 games but still couldn't draw 30K in 2 straight games to open the season.

For $3Mil, fans will expect
- Winning the Apple Cup... Leach only won his first Apple Cup, then lost 7 straight
- Trips to the Rose Bowl... Leach went to none
- Win the Pac12... Leach never did
- Contend for the National Title... :lol:
WSU’s back-to-back, sunny Saturday home tilts to start the 2019 campaign marked the first back-to-back sub-30,000 games since 2013 (the New Mexico State opener drew 27,228) and the first sub-30 games in the month of September since before Mike Leach’s arrival on the Palouse.

“Yes, they were fighting Labor Day getaways last week and, yes, Northern Colorado,” he writes. “But the Cougs are always going to play an FCS opponent; perhaps they just need to make sure it’s Eastern Washington or Idaho as often as possible.”

This, he notes, is on the heels of 1) the winningest season in program history; 2) four-straight bowl seasons and a 93.4 percent Martin Stadium occupancy rate in that timeframe; and 3) a glossy 91 percent renewal rate among season ticket holders.


“Slippage at the gate,” writes the man whose affinity for Minnesota Twins caps still puzzles the masses, is a national trend — and Cougarville is falling in line.
https://247sports.com/college/washingto ... 135415418/
Didn't Leach get paid mmore than what Rolo is getting paid? So they want more for less.
Leach got paid more because he was way more experienced than Rolo. But this doesn't mean they expect any less than where they are at now.

The passionate fan base and packed stadiums as picture will last as long as the team wins. Unlike schools like Tennessee, Michigan etc that draws over 100K even in down years

Re: Go Bows

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:18 pm
by Bleed_Green
Wazzu and Oregon State are near the bottom of attendance in the Pac-12 especially during subpar seasons, and they're smaller than Aloha Stadium.

Tickets to UH games are almost like you're paying for a premium as the years go on compared to 90% of D1 schools.

Constricting games to PPV doesn't help either, makes people stay at home to watch a live game they can pay for.