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shrek2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:30 am I didn't want to post this under the GOAT QB post but have a thread strickly for Cole. I think he deserves a lot of kudos for the things he says off the field besides being an outstanding QB. Not only has he put up the numbers on offense but I think for Cole to say things like he looks at the team as being 0-0 instead of 3-0 shows a lot of maturity. Everybody loves a winner and he is more than a quarterback and provides great leadership for the rest of the team.

shrek2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:05 am At this point, he shows a lot of NFL potential. I'd like to see him pass more on the run or rollout.

Palolo_2LA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:04 am Guys lets not get the crown out too early. He's on a good run, but he's also only 3 games into starting. Let's revisit at seasons end and then again after next season.

He missed a bunch of RPO reads last night and his pass placement is inconsistent. He also has some very talented WRs that make his job easier.

I'm not hatin on him, I'm cautious when ppl start naming the latest successful guy the best eva. Mr Breenan was notoriuosly consistent.

Palolo_2LA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:14 am

shrek2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:05 am At this point, he shows a lot of NFL potential. I'd like to see him pass more on the run or rollout.

Huh? NFL? He's been under center in victory formation only...he's a good system QB, but definitely not an NFL QB.

Do you see his long wind up, staring down WRs and crampy footwork?

cabanalane wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:05 am QBs by default, are a different breed. Being a 3 year player (So), he has already matured and know what to say. Many have said Chevan Cordeiro had a slight edge over Cole. True, or not, it came down to the X-factor, and Cole has it (now). Sort of like at work. Sometimes the best guy for the job is not the most talented (not saying Cole is not). QB got to know how to talk to the coaches, teammates, press, professors, and the public he meets at Zippys.

With Cole starting, the experience gained over the last 3 games, he is now way ahead of Chevan Cordeiro, without a doubt, UH's best option at QB.

With that said, I hope Rolo DON'T start the two Freshman QBs. Even within the rules, is better for them not to have any game experience. If they get hit, fumble, or interception, will quickly shot down their confidence. I would like to see Rolo keep these guys hungry, and also believe they can walk on water. If they believe it, they can. They would be awesome when they get their first real start. It's important to control "adversity."

Irse wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:24 am

cabanalane wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:05 am QBs by default, are a different breed. Being a 3 year player (So), he has already matured and know what to say. Many have said Chevan Cordeiro had a slight edge over Cole. True, or not, it came down to the X-factor, and Cole has it (now). Sort of like at work. Sometimes the best guy for the job is not the most talented (not saying Cole is not). QB got to know how to talk to the coaches, teammates, press, professors, and the public he meets at Zippys.

With Cole starting, the experience gained over the last 3 games, he is now way ahead of Chevan Cordeiro, without a doubt, UH's best option at QB.

With that said, I hope Rolo DON'T start the two Freshman QBs. Even within the rules, is better for them not to have any game experience. If they get hit, fumble, or interception, will quickly shot down their confidence. I would like to see Rolo keep these guys hungry, and also believe they can walk on water. If they believe it, they can. They would be awesome when they get their first real start. It's important to control "adversity."

They'll probably get some PT against Duquesne. They should be able to learn from mistakes and still be confident. It could be a good learning experience.

shrek2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:21 am

Palolo_2LA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:14 am

shrek2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:05 am At this point, he shows a lot of NFL potential. I'd like to see him pass more on the run or rollout.

Huh? NFL? He's been under center in victory formation only...he's a good system QB, but definitely not an NFL QB.

Do you see his long wind up, staring down WRs and crampy footwork?

I watched Colin Kaepernick at UNR and SF. He is better at this stage than Colin was. Oh yeah, Colin only learned to kneel after 5 years in the pros.

TheDuke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:20 pm

shrek2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:21 am

Palolo_2LA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:14 am

Huh? NFL? He's been under center in victory formation only...he's a good system QB, but definitely not an NFL QB.

Do you see his long wind up, staring down WRs and crampy footwork?

I watched Colin Kaepernick at UNR and SF. He is better at this stage than Colin was. Oh yeah, Colin only learned to kneel after 5 years in the pros.

I saw all of UH's games against Kapernick.

I like Cole's potential. He can pass the ball. That's what QBs are for. Manage the game, execute, lead and pass the ball. If you can run that is an added benefit. If you can run and take the pounding you are lucky.

Kapernick is out of the NFL. Once they know your weakness they got you. Yes, you can still win games but the odds are you may not have a playoff team. Kapernick's achilles heel was the pass. Force him to pass and you can beat him. He isn't accurate and he isn't consistent.

Kapernick never beat Hawaii. We forced him to pass and contained him from running outside the tackles. That's what the NFL was doing to him. And the big and fast LBs was tearing into him.Even as big and strong as Kapernick is he is no match for NFL LBs. With Kapernick's running style eventually they will get you and get you where it will affect your play. Most running QBs that last too long in the NFL.