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Ok really though, so he dropped a pass big deal. You act like some of the other receivers don't either. And, he's not pathetic-he has the speed and the hands. Do you not remember his punt return for a touchdown last season?

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damelodian wrote:I didn't say but I'll definitely abbreviate it. What is the deal with our punt return team? A negative total, I wonder how many negative yards we have for the year? Regardless it has to be an NCAA record, and a bad one at that. Perhaps Chad Owens could make his way out to practice, and learn these guys a thing or two about returning punts. We all know that actions speak louder than words, and I can totally recall what he did against BYU. Please, please, please, do something, it is embarassing.

yeah...i was expecting mouton to do better

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cmkim1019 wrote:Ok really though, so he dropped a pass big deal. You act like some of the other receivers don't either. And, he's not pathetic-he has the speed and the hands. Do you not remember his punt return for a touchdown last season?

yeah so he caught the ball... this season hes dropped all the big time plays, the game changing ones... he caught ONE though, which ill be the first to say nice catch... he hasnt been catching the balls consistently, even the simple ones... hes got quicks but it doesnt help when hes gaining his yards going sideline to sideline, when he should be going up the field... You hardly saw owens run east and west, and when you did he turned it into a long return or gain... i wouldnt be getting on washington if he turned his plays into good yac... owens was fearless when he returned punts, ive yet to see washington get a running start and make a defender miss on a return... he either fair catches it on like the 10 or lets it go on the 30 and lets it roll to the 10.... so if he cant utilize his speed by CATCHING the ball whats the point....

ONE QUESTION CMKIM1019, WHO HAS BETTER HANDS??? MIKE WASHINGTON OR EITHER OF THE DREADHEADS, BESS / RGM / RIVERS/ HAWTHORNE.... TELL ME

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Well, the punt returner can't do anything if the opposing team is always in his face way before the ball even gets to him. I don't care even if you're chad owens! It lays more with the ST blockers to prevent the rush or at least hold them up a little bit more. Most of the time when our returner catches the ball I'm there praying he doesn't fumble it esp since he's in the middle of several opposing team players already! :-?

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the other thing this thread is ignoring completely, is when UH's returners catch the ball, there are unblocked coverage guys all over the place. But when UH kicks, there's no one by the ball-carrier other than the gunners.

I don't think UH's ST units are defeating their counterparts at either end of the field.
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I've been busy this year, so I haven't watched enough UH games. I could'a sworn I saw a Funaki pass bounce off Washington's facemask in the Fresno St. game...

However, the stat's don't lie: MW is the #2 receiver on the team w/ 32rec. for 300yds and a TD.

His punt return stat's are kinda sad though: 12 punt returns for 4yds...
Everytime he does a juke...tries a shake 'n bake...the opposing team just CREAMS him!!!!!
If the ST's blockers are so bad, why does Malcom Lane have consistently HUGE returns year in and year out?
Also, last year's PR's were fine w/Davone Bess and Mouton (?).

Still, I guess MW doesn't fumble the ball much...

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Mainlanders say," If it ain't broken, then don't fix it"
Kanaks say, "If stay broke, den fix 'em"

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Team Player              Gm No yrds AVG  Long
LT   Phillip Livas        6  3  92  30.7  57   
NMSU Chris Williams       6  4  88  22.0  83   
NEV  Jonathon Amaya       2  3  59  19.7  38   
BSU  Ian Johnson          3  1  19  19.0  19   
FSU  Marlon Moore         3  5  82  16.4  63   
IDA  Shiloh Keo           2  4  59  14.8  24   
SJSU Yonus Davis          2  6  86  14.3  54   
NMSU Marcus Anderson      6  4  48  12.0  34   
LT   Philip Beck          6  7  78  11.1  26   
FSU  Chastin West         4  5  48   9.6  46   
SJSU Kevin Jurovich       2  4  28   7.0  11   
BSU  Titus Young          1  4  27   6.8  16   
BSU  Kyle Wilson          3  6  40   6.7  24   
UTS  Kejon Murphy         5  7  45   6.4  15   
SJSU Michael Avila        1  2   9   4.5   9   
NEV  Antoine Thompson     3  8  35   4.4  15   
BSU  Vinny Perretta       3  5  22   4.4   7   
NEV  Dwayne Sanders       4  5  14   2.8   3   
SJSU Coye Francies        3  3   5   1.7   9   
IDA  Kama Bailey          5  5   7   1.4   4 
HI   Michael Washington   7 12  -4  -0.3   3 

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BigWave96744 wrote:Mainlanders say," If it ain't broken, then don't fix it"
Kanaks say, "If stay broke, den fix 'em"

Code: Select all

Team Player              Gm No yrds AVG  Long
LT   Phillip Livas        6  3  92  30.7  57   
NMSU Chris Williams       6  4  88  22.0  83   
NEV  Jonathon Amaya       2  3  59  19.7  38   
BSU  Ian Johnson          3  1  19  19.0  19   
FSU  Marlon Moore         3  5  82  16.4  63   
IDA  Shiloh Keo           2  4  59  14.8  24   
SJSU Yonus Davis          2  6  86  14.3  54   
NMSU Marcus Anderson      6  4  48  12.0  34   
LT   Philip Beck          6  7  78  11.1  26   
FSU  Chastin West         4  5  48   9.6  46   
SJSU Kevin Jurovich       2  4  28   7.0  11   
BSU  Titus Young          1  4  27   6.8  16   
BSU  Kyle Wilson          3  6  40   6.7  24   
UTS  Kejon Murphy         5  7  45   6.4  15   
SJSU Michael Avila        1  2   9   4.5   9   
NEV  Antoine Thompson     3  8  35   4.4  15   
BSU  Vinny Perretta       3  5  22   4.4   7   
NEV  Dwayne Sanders       4  5  14   2.8   3   
SJSU Coye Francies        3  3   5   1.7   9   
IDA  Kama Bailey          5  5   7   1.4   4 
HI   Michael Washington   7 12  -4  -0.3   3 
Hey, BigWave?

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madeinhawaii wrote:
BigWave96744 wrote:Mainlanders say," If it ain't broken, then don't fix it"
Kanaks say, "If stay broke, den fix 'em"

Code: Select all

Team Player              Gm No yrds AVG  Long
LT   Phillip Livas        6  3  92  30.7  57   
NMSU Chris Williams       6  4  88  22.0  83   
NEV  Jonathon Amaya       2  3  59  19.7  38   
BSU  Ian Johnson          3  1  19  19.0  19   
FSU  Marlon Moore         3  5  82  16.4  63   
IDA  Shiloh Keo           2  4  59  14.8  24   
SJSU Yonus Davis          2  6  86  14.3  54   
NMSU Marcus Anderson      6  4  48  12.0  34   
LT   Philip Beck          6  7  78  11.1  26   
FSU  Chastin West         4  5  48   9.6  46   
SJSU Kevin Jurovich       2  4  28   7.0  11   
BSU  Titus Young          1  4  27   6.8  16   
BSU  Kyle Wilson          3  6  40   6.7  24   
UTS  Kejon Murphy         5  7  45   6.4  15   
SJSU Michael Avila        1  2   9   4.5   9   
NEV  Antoine Thompson     3  8  35   4.4  15   
BSU  Vinny Perretta       3  5  22   4.4   7   
NEV  Dwayne Sanders       4  5  14   2.8   3   
SJSU Coye Francies        3  3   5   1.7   9   
IDA  Kama Bailey          5  5   7   1.4   4 
HI   Michael Washington   7 12  -4  -0.3   3 
Hey, BigWave?

How you know stay broke if nevah work in the first place?
:lol:

That is eye opening. WOW.
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Chad Owens takes it up field ASAP... does very little dancing, and more running...

here are examples of owens returns... tell me you dont notice a huge difference in just the way owens handles the pressure...

UH vs UAB


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UH vs Nev


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UH vs Northwestern


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UH vs SJSU


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UH vs BYU highlights... second play is a TD return for Owens...


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Chad Owens AFL highlight...


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SundayJam wrote: If the ST's blockers are so bad, why does Malcom Lane have consistently HUGE returns year in and year out?
What does bad blocking this year have to do with Lane? I'm not saying MW is good. Too much juking, not completely with the program. But on multiple punts on Friday, MW was there with 3-4 blue shirts and no blockers even in the picture, while BSU's returner had blue shirts on every white jersey. Good or bad, he's not going anywhere.
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Mighty Mouse is baaaaaaad!!! I wish we had another one like him, or two for that matter.

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SundayJam wrote: If the ST's blockers are so bad, why does Malcom Lane have consistently HUGE returns year in and year out?
What does bad blocking this year have to do with Lane? I'm not saying MW is good. Too much juking, not completely with the program. But on multiple punts on Friday, MW was there with 3-4 blue shirts and no blockers even in the picture, while BSU's returner had blue shirts on every white jersey. Good or bad, he's not going anywhere.
ive seen chad owens break through 3-4 defenders before, multiple times... ive seen him shed off a would be tackler a nano second before getting creamed... if owens can do it why cant washington???

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kepaniamekolea wrote:Well, the punt returner can't do anything if the opposing team is always in his face way before the ball even gets to him. I don't care even if you're chad owens! It lays more with the ST blockers to prevent the rush or at least hold them up a little bit more. Most of the time when our returner catches the ball I'm there praying he doesn't fumble it esp since he's in the middle of several opposing team players already! :-?
+1
Opposing punters have also done a good job sky punting too him. The ball is in the air for so long that they're gunners are already in M-Dubs face before he can catch it. It's not all on M-Dub here. He'll get a chance to break one.
Personally, I'd also like to see Bain back there sometimes. He has the quickness to make guys miss, which is crucial at PR.

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kepaniamekolea wrote:Well, the punt returner can't do anything if the opposing team is always in his face way before the ball even gets to him. I don't care even if you're chad owens! It lays more with the ST blockers to prevent the rush or at least hold them up a little bit more. Most of the time when our returner catches the ball I'm there praying he doesn't fumble it esp since he's in the middle of several opposing team players already! :-?
+1
Opposing punters have also done a good job sky punting too him. The ball is in the air for so long that they're gunners are already in M-Dubs face before he can catch it. It's not all on M-Dub here. He'll get a chance to break one.
Personally, I'd also like to see Bain back there sometimes. He has the quickness to make guys miss, which is crucial at PR.
dude seriously i dont usually hate on people but cmon what are you smoking... bain at punt returner... hes not as fast as mike washington nor as quick... though he does catch better... They should find a chad owens, maybe pollard if he can HOLD on to the ball after catching it...

by the way they sky punt to him because they know he panics back there when defenders are breathing down his neck... thats why he muffs a lot... hes more worried about getting hit then catching the ball.... but he needs to stay in their and try to make plays because he "TALKED" a lot in the off season, he gotta keep his word right?? kinda puts him in a sticky situation dont it...

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