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Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:09 am BYU is just a more talented team then us and they played their best game. It may be because our D isn't very good. But the also beat Wisconsin on the road. Now they found thier QB so they may get on a roll.
I believe our problem wasn't a lack of talent, it was game preparation/strategy. The offensive game plan stunk, no adjustments from the previous games as to what the D was showing/giving. We did the exact same thing on offense as we did in previous games. Against BYU, I would have liked to see our O move the pocket, let Cole create with his legs if nothing is there, it would have given him more time against some of that pressure, and possible pick up a few more first downs. Rolo trying to establish the run before the pass, I think that goes against the RnS philosophy of ball control offense through high percentage, short pass plays. In the RnS you use the run to keep the defense honest, but you start with the pass, NOT the run game. The horizontal short passes (dink n dunk) to either side of the field, slants, dump off to RBs on flares are supposed to open the middle for runs, the safeties move up, and BAM! you go vertical down the seams.
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stranger808 wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:44 pm
Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:09 am BYU is just a more talented team then us and they played their best game. It may be because our D isn't very good. But the also beat Wisconsin on the road. Now they found thier QB so they may get on a roll.
I believe our problem wasn't a lack of talent, it was game preparation/strategy. The offensive game plan stunk, no adjustments from the previous games as to what the D was showing/giving. We did the exact same thing on offense as we did in previous games. Against BYU, I would have liked to see our O move the pocket, let Cole create with his legs if nothing is there, it would have given him more time against some of that pressure, and possible pick up a few more first downs. Rolo trying to establish the run before the pass, I think that goes against the RnS philosophy of ball control offense through high percentage, short pass plays. In the RnS you use the run to keep the defense honest, but you start with the pass, NOT the run game. The horizontal short passes (dink n dunk) to either side of the field, slants, dump off to RBs on flares are supposed to open the middle for runs, the safeties move up, and BAM! you go vertical down the seams.
Very unfortunate that Rolo and Smith don't, or won't listen to you. The Curse of Chow is still stinking up the football offices and the athletic complex.
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My3Cats wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Very unfortunate that Rolo and Smith don't, or won't listen to you. The Curse of Chow is still stinking up the football offices and the athletic complex.
Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.

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UnBiasFan wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:14 pm
My3Cats wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Very unfortunate that Rolo and Smith don't, or won't listen to you. The Curse of Chow is still stinking up the football offices and the athletic complex.
Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.
When have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
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Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pm
UnBiasFan wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:14 pm
My3Cats wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Very unfortunate that Rolo and Smith don't, or won't listen to you. The Curse of Chow is still stinking up the football offices and the athletic complex.
Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.
When have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
Didn't you guys beat Iowa who was highly ranked at their place in the late '80s? If so, that's the only one I could think of.

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wyokie wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 pm
Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pm
UnBiasFan wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:14 pm

Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.
When have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
Didn't you guys beat Iowa who was highly ranked at their place in the late '80s? If so, that's the only one I could think of.
No. I think we beat Iowa at home in the early 80s.
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Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pmWhen have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
I think the only time we beat a Ranked team on the road was 2008 against a then #22 Fresno St

In 2006 we lost at then #24 Alabama by a mere 17-25. Also in 2006 we lost at then #22 Boise St 29-32 in OT

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"Curse of Chow," I like that creativity and will use it.

Do you guys think RPO looses half a second (slower) on run plays? Would it be quicker to just hand off to the RB?

From the player's level do they really bite, when the QB take back the ball? I'm thinking the defensive player see things a lot better at that level, then us on TV.

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UnBiasFan wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:14 pm
My3Cats wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Very unfortunate that Rolo and Smith don't, or won't listen to you. The Curse of Chow is still stinking up the football offices and the athletic complex.
Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.
My Curse of Chow reference is to the hardheadedness. Unwillingness to make adjustments. Some, including me, used to call him stubborn old man.
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wyokie wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 pm
Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pm
UnBiasFan wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:14 pm

Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.
When have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
Didn't you guys beat Iowa who was highly ranked at their place in the late '80s? If so, that's the only one I could think of.
Hawaii has never played at Iowa.
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Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pm
UnBiasFan wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:14 pm
My3Cats wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Very unfortunate that Rolo and Smith don't, or won't listen to you. The Curse of Chow is still stinking up the football offices and the athletic complex.
Curse of Chow?

Nope. That was the curse of June Jones.

We got our asses handed to us on the road by a better team. The RnS cannot beat far superior talent in a road game. We can beat anyone at home. On the road against better teams, we will always be suspect.
When have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
1955 – A year after suffering a 50–0 blowout loss to Nebraska in Honolulu, the Rainbows go up to Lincoln the following season and upset the Huskers 6–0. The win is considered one of the school's all-time biggest upsets.

1973 – The Rainbows record what is widely considered to be the biggest upset in school history, defeating Washington 10–7 in front of 52,500 in Seattle. The Huskies were favored to beat Hawaiʻi by as many as 50 points.

Gotta go back quite a ways for these golden moments.
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My3Cats wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:43 am
wyokie wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 pm
Irse wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pm

When have we ever beat a superior team on the road?
Didn't you guys beat Iowa who was highly ranked at their place in the late '80s? If so, that's the only one I could think of.
Hawaii has never played at Iowa.
You better read a UH football media guide cos Hawaii did play AT Iowa twice, 1956 (losing 34-0) and in 1991 (losing 53-10). If in doubt always check a media guide!!!!!

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Rolo said we got beat at the line of scrimmage on both sides. It is something that will have to be remedied during the off season. We are a young team so I think that it can be done. Solomon said that the linebackers did not do a good job. I agree hopefully they will learn from this game. For me I just want them to get better each game. The game I am waiting for is San Diego St. at their house. To me this is a much bigger game than BYU. It won’t bother me if they don’t play BYU again. It is not the same as it once was. Now they are just another team on the schedule. I would rather see a team like UCF.
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wyokie wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:47 pm
My3Cats wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:43 am
wyokie wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 pm

Didn't you guys beat Iowa who was highly ranked at their place in the late '80s? If so, that's the only one I could think of.
Hawaii has never played at Iowa.
You better read a UH football media guide cos Hawaii did play AT Iowa twice, 1956 (losing 34-0) and in 1991 (losing 53-10). If in doubt always check a media guide!!!!!
Mahalo Wyokie! I wasn't born by 1956 and probably I had really bad memory about the 1991 game to forget about it.
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My3Cats wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:13 pm
wyokie wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:47 pm
My3Cats wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:43 am

Hawaii has never played at Iowa.
You better read a UH football media guide cos Hawaii did play AT Iowa twice, 1956 (losing 34-0) and in 1991 (losing 53-10). If in doubt always check a media guide!!!!!
Mahalo Wyokie! I wasn't born by 1956 and probably I had really bad memory about the 1991 game to forget about it.
Media guides are a passion of mine. \:D/

The most "valuable" media guide I have...1988 Wyoming Cowboy football media guide. Our last great year where we won a outright conference championship (and had great uniforms) but now....we royally stink!!!!!! :evil:

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