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Should we really be surprised at UH being 3-8?

#1 Post by Egonator » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:58 pm

So last year UH was 7-7. If I remember correctly we were lucky at Air Force when the Field Goal kicker who was clutch at the time missed the potential game winning Field Goal in the 4th quarter. UH won in overtime . A couple weeks later UH blocked a last second Field Goal in Fresno and Won. If we didn't win those games there would be no Hawaii Bowl hence our record would be 4-9.
This year unlike last year the team is not getting the lucky breaks. I think we all expected improvement from last year but should we really be surprised that the team is 3-8?

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#2 Post by UnBiasFan » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:25 am

People are disappointed. I don’t think many are surprised. Going into any season, people have in their minds what is realistically doable. Seven or eight wins and a bowl game was a reasonable expectation. But most know that three or four wins is very possible. When the team comes up short like this, fans start asking questions. If it happens too many years in a row, we start looking for a new coach. We aren’t quite there yet.

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#3 Post by shrek2 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:17 am

I would have appreciated a team who was competitive and lost in the fourth quarter than the first quarter. Most teams had us in the first half aside from the win/loss. It doesn't matter regarding the record, it matters as to what kind of game was played. When you see the other team dominating in the first quarter its easy to find another football game to watch. Freaking boring watching UH.

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#4 Post by My3Cats » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:37 am

With or without Coach Naeole and all of the injuries throughout the pre-season and season, the offensive line has been disappointing. Maybe to eliminate the false starts they should snap the ball on one instead of calling off the long cadence. To eliminate the holding, they should wear fingerless gloves. At least we haven't been seeing the hands to the face and punching/personal foul penalties lately. The offense is impotent enough without the constant shooting themselves in the foot syndrome.
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#5 Post by UH95 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:55 am

shrek2 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:17 am
I would have appreciated a team who was competitive and lost in the fourth quarter than the first quarter. Most teams had us in the first half aside from the win/loss. It doesn't matter regarding the record, it matters as to what kind of game was played. When you see the other team dominating in the first quarter its easy to find another football game to watch. Freaking boring watching UH.
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#7 Post by RedZone » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:06 pm

Yes it is a surprise. It was all there at the beginning. Yeah we saw that offense would have to score with the defense that we had but there was enough to win more games. I think it all went downhill when Ursua got hurt. It was like total deflation. No other receiver stepped up and it also affected our quarterback. Colt had Bess. Last year Dru had Kemp. This year it looked like it was going to be John until he went down. After that all we had left was DSJ. I am amazed at how many yards he has gotten. A lot of that was on his own. He is the team MVP. The it stopped being a surprise when coach Naeole left. What coach leaves in the middle of the season? It’s not like he got fired. It was then that I thought something was really wrong. I still don’t know what it is but I have to wonder if it will take some coaching changes. I just don’t want to see same ole stuff. We should have been a bowl team.
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#8 Post by Nisei » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:36 pm

At the beginning of the season? Yes, I'd be surprised we'd be 3-8 right now. With the injuries to Ursua, Unga, the banged up OL shuffle, and Naeole digging out; no, I'm not surprised we're 3-8 right now.

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#9 Post by stranger808 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:36 pm

I'm surprised at the horrifically poor game planning I witnessed throughout the year, it all came to a head during the SDSU game.

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#10 Post by WarriorTyme » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:56 am

Both BYU and Hawaii were decimated with injuries this season but the talent level on the depth chart was exposed for Rainbows. Diocemy couldn't get the record until the end of the game when BYU mixed in there 2nd-3rd string defense. Recruiting is everything.

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Mens Sports: Hawaii Warriors
Women's Sports: Rainbow Warrior Women

Many Universities have alterations to their Nicknames based on masculinity (men) and femininity (women). This is done to celebrate the differences between Male and Female athletics.

This will help attract recruits to all University of Hawaii sports both Mens and Women's that would other wise go somewhere else local or mainland. Excellent recruits/talent can make a good coach look like a genius. Hawaii already has a geographical challenges, so why further limit the recruits/talent all Hawaii sports could get. The best coach Hawaii Football had was June Jones and he got all that talent and wins as Hawaii Warriors.

#2. Hire experienced offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. I'm afraid that some of these coach are a little out of their league in the MWC. Last season all the teams didn't have any tape on Rolo and his coaching staff schemes, tendencies, play calling. But now teams have tape on Rolo and his coaching staff. The "Rainbow Effect" on recruiting coupled with teams having tape on Rolo and his staff coaching led to dismal season.

I'm not calling for Rolo firing but there are nickname and coaching changes needed this off season to help turn this ship around.

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#11 Post by XKamaaina » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:47 am

Hard to fathom college football. Just read that UCLA’s buyout for Mora was $10 mil. Ariz State buyout of Graham is $11 mil. Gruden offered $9 mil at Tenn with $8 mil pool for assistants. I’d guess UH assistant pool at $300K. What the hell is UH supposed to do?

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Re: Should we really be surprised at UH being 3-8?

#12 Post by Irse » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:09 am

XKamaaina wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:47 am
Hard to fathom college football. Just read that UCLA’s buyout for Mora was $10 mil. Ariz State buyout of Graham is $11 mil. Gruden offered $9 mil at Tenn with $8 mil pool for assistants. I’d guess UH assistant pool at $300K. What the hell is UH supposed to do?
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#13 Post by gpmcconnell » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:00 am

Our HC makes 250k less than the strength coach at Alabama

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#14 Post by shrek2 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:38 am

$400K is not a drop in the bucket. Besides, you gotta love what you do and not do it for the money. One of the important things you learn in Sales (which I am not).

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#15 Post by My3Cats » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:44 pm

Hey, plenty people in the community (not UH football fans), complained when private citizens/fans/boosters donated half of June Jones' $800,000+ salary. People gotta hate. Crabs in a bucket mentality. And that's why UH football and athletics in general will rarely exceed the level of mediocrity.
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