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2017 Expectations

#1 Post by J-Rod » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:26 pm

Time is flying by. We're only a little over a month away from the Warriors reporting to fall camp in prep for the UMass game and the 2017 season. 2016 began with excitement, but also tempered expectations. Rolo and co. delivered a pleasant surprise to the fan base with a bowl berth and bowl victory. 7-7, including a win @Air Force that few fans saw coming.

This year, you can hardly believe your eyes. It's true, for the first time in what feels like forever, Hawaii does NOT play a horror of a schedule. In fact, Phil Steele's Toughest Opponent Records for 2017 rankings indicate Hawaii's 2017 opponents bring a 40% win percentage into this season from last season, good for 128th nationally. By no means can the schedule be considered easy, but after years of gauntlet's that limited any hope of a winning season, the avenue for success is now realistic.

Schedule is posted below. Following a 7-7 season, considering there are key returning players (Brown, Tavai, etc.) but some key losses (Kemp), and Hawaii having a more manageable schedule, what are your expectations for the 2017 season?

2017 Schedule

@UMass
Western Carolina
@UCLA
Bye
@Wyoming
Colorado State
@Nevada
San Jose State
Bye
San Diego State
@UNLV
Fresno State
@Utah State
BYU

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#2 Post by J-Rod » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:32 pm

My picks...

@UMass W - This game will be tougher than people think.
Western Carolina W - Old-fashioned JJ-era type whuppin'?
@UCLA L
Bye
@Wyoming L - I think UH gives Wyo fans an unexpected scare, but home field advantage (take that as you like...) is the difference in the end.
Colorado State L - Phil Steele picked the Rams to win the Mountain Division.
@Nevada W
San Jose State W
Bye
San Diego State W - Warriors get the West Division gorilla off their backs.
@UNLV L - Every year there is a loss to someone UH should probably beat. Hangover L in Vegas.
Fresno State W
@Utah State L
BYU L - Sitake's 2017 defense will be nasty.

7-6 (4-4)...play somebody in the Hawaii Bowl.

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#3 Post by wyokie » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:47 pm

J-Rod wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:32 pm
@Wyoming L - I think UH gives Wyo fans an unexpected scare, but home field advantage (take that as you like...) is the difference in the end.
In my mind, the biggest game of the year. 7,220 feet above sea level and THE potential # 1 pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, boys!!!!!! :D

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#4 Post by My3Cats » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:07 am

Rolo is still rebuilding and short of overall depth, so I'll go with 7-5 and an invitation to the Hawaii Bowl:

@UMass - win in a squeaker.
Western Carolina - win big time.
@UCLA - loss, but we give the Bruins a run for their money.
Bye - great chance to rest up and heal.
@Wyoming - loss, can't beat the Cow Pokes in altitude.
Colorado State - win at home.
@Nevada - win on the road against their new coach.
San Jose State - win at home against their new coach.
Bye - another great chance to rest up and heal.
San Diego State - win in a shootout (no Donnel Pumphrey).
@UNLV - loss, when was the last time Hawaii won in the City of Lost Wages?
Fresno State - win at home against their new coach.
@Utah State - loss, another one on the road in altitude.
BYU - loss, Cougars still have the upper hand over the Warriors.
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Re: 2017 Expectations

#5 Post by Nisei » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:28 pm

My3Cats wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:07 am
Rolo is still rebuilding and short of overall depth, so I'll go with 7-5 and an invitation to the Hawaii Bowl:

@UMass - win in a squeaker.
Western Carolina - win big time.
@UCLA - loss, but we give the Bruins a run for their money.
Bye - great chance to rest up and heal.
@Wyoming - loss, can't beat the Cow Pokes in altitude.
Colorado State - win at home.
@Nevada - win on the road against their new coach.
San Jose State - win at home against their new coach.
Bye - another great chance to rest up and heal.
San Diego State - win in a shootout (no Donnel Pumphrey).
@UNLV - loss, when was the last time Hawaii won in the City of Lost Wages?
Fresno State - win at home against their new coach.
@Utah State - loss, another one on the road in altitude.
BYU - loss, Cougars still have the upper hand over the Warriors.
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Re: 2017 Expectations

#6 Post by SundayJam » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:07 am

Wins: UMass, West Car., Wyoming, Nevada, SJSU, UNLV, and Fresno.

Losses: UCLA, CSU, SDSU, USU, and BYU.

It's preseason, so I'm strictly picking wins over fading teams vs those with big support. I think a returning, winning quarterback for Hawaii coupled with some sensible management and a gelling strategy on both D and O will easily earn a bowl bid.

I haven't researched this very well. It's just my gutt.

Good luck.

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#7 Post by Irse » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:15 am

Barring critical injuries, I think well win 8 during the regular season.
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#8 Post by J-Rod » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:30 am

The UMass game is very important. Long trip, only 3.5 point favorite. Can't take that game lightly or it could result in a 2005 FAU-ish type loss. With all the positiveness going into this season, a loss there would be a real buzzkill to open the year.

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#9 Post by Irse » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:42 pm

J-Rod wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:30 am
The UMass game is very important. Long trip, only 3.5 point favorite. Can't take that game lightly or it could result in a 2005 FAU-ish type loss. With all the positiveness going into this season, a loss there would be a real buzzkill to open the year.
I don't think a loss would be that critical. The FAU and Portland State losses were at home. The UMass game is 4 time zones away. Hope we win, that would get us off to a good start.
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#10 Post by reignjah11 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:51 pm

I can't believe Vegas has the over/under for Hawaii's win total at 4. Although we are still a team that's rebuilding, I think things are trending up! With a more favorable schedule I'm confident Hawaii should win more than that this coming year. I predict we go 7-5 with a trip back to the Hawaii bowl!

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#11 Post by Nisei » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:10 pm

reignjah11 wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:51 pm
I can't believe Vegas has the over/under for Hawaii's win total at 4. Although we are still a team that's rebuilding, I think things are trending up! With a more favorable schedule I'm confident Hawaii should win more than that this coming year. I predict we go 7-5 with a trip back to the Hawaii bowl!
Time to bet your house on the over.

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#12 Post by My3Cats » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:50 am

Irse wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:42 pm
J-Rod wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:30 am
The UMass game is very important. Long trip, only 3.5 point favorite. Can't take that game lightly or it could result in a 2005 FAU-ish type loss. With all the positiveness going into this season, a loss there would be a real buzzkill to open the year.
I don't think a loss would be that critical. The FAU and Portland State losses were at home. The UMass game is 4 time zones away. Hope we win, that would get us off to a good start.
Actually, 5 time zones away. Don't forget Alaska.
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Re: 2017 Expectations

#13 Post by J-Rod » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:52 pm

reignjah11 wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:51 pm
I can't believe Vegas has the over/under for Hawaii's win total at 4. Although we are still a team that's rebuilding, I think things are trending up! With a more favorable schedule I'm confident Hawaii should win more than that this coming year. I predict we go 7-5 with a trip back to the Hawaii bowl!
I saw this a week back or so. Got an audible, "What?!" from me. Few members of the national media felt UH was the "free money" pick of all the 128 teams (them and BYU. 10 is high for almost anyone).

I tend to side with those who don't have a bias, but 4?! That feels like free money. 5-7 is worst case scenario for this team.

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#14 Post by UnBiasFan » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:13 pm

We are not going to lose in week 4 and week 9.

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Re: 2017 Expectations

#15 Post by poidog » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm

12-2
Lose @ Wyoming, lose MWC championship game @ Boise, win Hawaii Bowl against Central Fla

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