Chow's Future - the clock is ticking...

[cabanalane]

Knowing how an University works, if an action is taken, 20 people got to touch that piece of paper. Some low level (low paying) guy would have leak that info out, if Chow was fired. Everyone got a camera phone, right?

Chow is back.

[Palolo_2LA]

Knowing how an University works, if an action is taken, 20 people got to touch that piece of paper. Some low level (low paying) guy would have leak that info out, if Chow was fired. Everyone got a camera phone, right?

Chow is back.

I think Chow will stay...lack of clarity, forward thinking and responsibility hobbles UH at all levels.

[My3Cats]

They were all Von Appen guys when JJ took over, too.

This is off topic, but it just reminded me of this question.

When Von Appen first took over. He had a "freshman" RB. A local guy. He was pretty good. Made a great transition from HS football to UH.

He got into a dispute with Fred Von Ap. And was off the team. He never signed on with another school. I want to say his last name starts with a "C."

Questions:

1. What was his name?

2. IIRC, there were reports that Von Ap did not handle local players that well. And the local players didn't like him too.

Therefore, failed.

I believe that was George Ornellas from St Louis School.

[Palolo_2LA]

They were all Von Appen guys when JJ took over, too.

This is off topic, but it just reminded me of this question.

When Von Appen first took over. He had a "freshman" RB. A local guy. He was pretty good. Made a great transition from HS football to UH.

He got into a dispute with Fred Von Ap. And was off the team. He never signed on with another school. I want to say his last name starts with a "C."

Questions:

1. What was his name?

2. IIRC, there were reports that Von Ap did not handle local players that well. And the local players didn't like him too.

Therefore, failed.

I believe that was George Ornellas from St Louis School.

Doubt it was "The Great" G. Ornellas...he couldn't hack it in the classroom.

[Duster]

Hmm. If my recollection is correct, Mack was sacked at the awards banquet. If NC is around after the 12/7 awards luau, I think he is returning for this 4th year. Any further delay will hamper recruiting efforts before NLI signing day.

[Palolo_2LA]

Hmm. If my recollection is correct, Mack was sacked at the awards banquet. If NC is around after the 12/7 awards luau, I think he is returning for this 4th year. Any further delay will hamper recruiting efforts before NLI signing day.

Need to keep our finger crossed and hope 9 wins in 3 seasons is clearly unacceptable and the limited prospects for changes/improvement are not present under NC.

[ulua]

Something has to change.
If he's staying then is a seasoned OC coming? Something has to be reported if he stays, if not Jay is in deep kimchee

+1 If Chow is not gone, and is back for his 4th year, then he needs to hire a real OC and let him call the plays, and we need to get a real QB and WR coach, these 2 young guys we got just ain't cutting it.

[uhwarriors]

Hmm. If my recollection is correct, Mack was sacked at the awards banquet. If NC is around after the 12/7 awards luau, I think he is returning for this 4th year. Any further delay will hamper recruiting efforts before NLI signing day.

Mack had his meeting with Hinshaw and Donovan after the banquet and the announcement was made the next day.

[HawaiianHogster]

I don't care who the coach is but I do care the team is losing. Changes need to be made. Good luck UH (upper campus). You'll need it.

[cabanalane]

I believe that was George Ornellas from St Louis School.

I think so. Thanks. Looking at his stats at UH. He average 11yrds per carry. Only played 4 games.

[Scott]

Yes at 28-18-14, Dave Wagner wasn't that good

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wa ... 8soccer%29

ROFL, I didn't figure this one out until i clicked on link. I was like, how can he have 14 ties!!!

[amela]

Hate to say it but give Chow one more year. There are some outstanding players coming in from redshirt, mission and QB Wittek. Returning players have a lot of potential too.

[madeinhawaii]

Hate to say it but give Chow one more year. There are some outstanding players coming in from redshirt, mission and QB Wittek. Returning players have a lot of potential too.

yep... and most take two to three years to develop... Chow will be 71-2. With good players in the fold, it really might be the best time for a new coach.

[poidog]

Yes at 28-18-14, Dave Wagner wasn't that good

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wa ... 8soccer%29

ROFL, I didn't figure this one out until i clicked on link. I was like, how can he have 14 ties!!!

Bob Wagner is doing pretty good this season. The Seahawks look like they are ready to make their run at the NFC West's top seed!

[madeinhawaii]

Yes at 28-18-14, Dave Wagner wasn't that good

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wa ... 8soccer%29

ROFL, I didn't figure this one out until i clicked on link. I was like, how can he have 14 ties!!!

Bob Wagner is doing pretty good this season. The Seahawks look like they are ready to make their run at the NFC West's top seed!

Robert Wagner... I thought after acting he'd go and retire peacefully. 84 and going strong it seems.