But that was the year the Giants went to the Super Bowl and I doubt he would have left the team early.H20 wrote:Didn't we turned down Kevin Gilbride in the McMackin hire, and who knows who else in favor of ease and continuitydcwarrior wrote:LOL, I don't think we will be having the problem of having to turn down a great coach...H20 wrote:Doesn't have to be the run-n-shoot for us to be prolific at passing. I wouldn't want to force the run-n-shoot if it means turning down other great coaches
Is the run and shoot dead in Hawaii?
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A great coach was interested though, which is what dcwarrior was trying to say wouldn't happen.
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I would love to see the new coach come in with a balanced offense with a TE, but I know that would be too much to ask for considering the personnel we currently have on offense the last decade in a half, built for the RnS. Our linemans maybe small, but we where born to move mountains. We need pass protect linemans to make the RnS work, for sure.
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The situation has changed and some of the haters are asking for his head. Maybe someone should send him a message.H20 wrote:A great coach was interested though, which is what dcwarrior was trying to say wouldn't happen.
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Here's the Q: Gilbride is an Xs and Os kind of guy, and mostly at the NFL level, correct? Does he have the kind of experience necessary to be the CEO of team? PR, recruiting, fundraising? Can he successfully simplify his schemes to work with limited practice and limited skill sets?
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Honestly I think the R&S takes to long to grasp, well from what we are told every year about kids still learning the offense.
We will still be a pass heavy team based on the current recruits. The AD needs to keep this in mind when hiring the new coach, for example hiring someone who would install a pro style offense would take at least 2-3 years just to get the personnel.
It would make more sense to look for someone who would install the airraid or spread option style of offense.
Maybe we go read option with Iosefa as qb. Tebow!
We will still be a pass heavy team based on the current recruits. The AD needs to keep this in mind when hiring the new coach, for example hiring someone who would install a pro style offense would take at least 2-3 years just to get the personnel.
It would make more sense to look for someone who would install the airraid or spread option style of offense.
Maybe we go read option with Iosefa as qb. Tebow!
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That might been said about JJ. Gilbride was a college head coach before albeit at a small college and in the 80s.dcwarrior wrote:Here's the Q: Gilbride is an Xs and Os kind of guy, and mostly at the NFL level, correct? Does he have the kind of experience necessary to be the CEO of team? PR, recruiting, fundraising? Can he successfully simplify his schemes to work with limited practice and limited skill sets?
Otherwise, see Weis, Charlie.
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A common saying with the RNS is "they finally got it down". Sadly for JC guys its in the middle or end of their senior year.
Typically a QB or receiver who hasn't run it in HS or JC will take 3 years to "Get It"
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Irse wrote:That might been said about JJ. Gilbride was a college head coach before albeit at a small college and in the 80s.dcwarrior wrote:Here's the Q: Gilbride is an Xs and Os kind of guy, and mostly at the NFL level, correct? Does he have the kind of experience necessary to be the CEO of team? PR, recruiting, fundraising? Can he successfully simplify his schemes to work with limited practice and limited skill sets?
Otherwise, see Weis, Charlie.
Sounds like Mack... who was also a head coach at at small college in the 80's.
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As a mainlander who likes to watch late-night football I would love if you guys kept the run-n-shoot around (or another pass-heavy offense). But you have to get the best possible coach for your school. Good luck in the search!
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Not a good year for Arizona, too. You guys still keeping your HC?Stallion wrote:As a mainlander who likes to watch late-night football I would love if you guys kept the run-n-shoot around (or another pass-heavy offense). But you have to get the best possible coach for your school. Good luck in the search!
EDIT... Nevermind, I just realized it's his first year. Good luck next season!
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It will be up to the new coach. A spread offense featuring multiple receivers and maybe a TE or two airing it out ala the Mike Leach Air Raid or the Joe Tiller Purdue spread attack would be the best fit utilizing all the WRs we have on the roster now. Also, alot of these play do not have the complex multiple sight adjusted routes that the run and shoot has. They here the play and run the route. It all depends on the coach, if he wants to ground and pound it then we'd have to recruit all these Fullbacks, H-Backs and TEs. Besides, some fans always complain. During the triple option era, they wanted more passing. During the run and shoot era, they wanted more running.
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I want all of the above.rodfather wrote:It will be up to the new coach. A spread offense featuring multiple receivers and maybe a TE or two airing it out ala the Mike Leach Air Raid or the Joe Tiller Purdue spread attack would be the best fit utilizing all the WRs we have on the roster now. Also, alot of these play do not have the complex multiple sight adjusted routes that the run and shoot has. They here the play and run the route. It all depends on the coach, if he wants to ground and pound it then we'd have to recruit all these Fullbacks, H-Backs and TEs. Besides, some fans always complain. During the triple option era, they wanted more passing. During the run and shoot era, they wanted more running.
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Yep, we fired Mike Stoops midseason and hired Rich Rodriguez right before our final game. I was hesitant at first because of his Michigan experience but I'm on board now.madeinhawaii wrote:Not a good year for Arizona, too. You guys still keeping your HC?
EDIT... Nevermind, I just realized it's his first year. Good luck next season!
Then our hated rival, Arizona State, fired their coach after the season (after we beat them ) and now the word is they're hiring June Jones! Wild times in the state of AZ.
So, the RnS may end up dead in Hawai'i but it's going to live on in the Pac-12!
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Not so fast, me! If you're not following the JJ crazyness in the Sports Forum here's the thread:Stallion wrote:So, the RnS may end up dead in Hawai'i but it's going to live on in the Pac-12!
JJ accepts ASU's offer then ASU says, "Just kidding."