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Watching Govs play Sabers. Campbell just scored. I know this kid's parents are Red Raider alum and he is pretty talented. But just watched a replay and it doesn't look like he put much effort against a double team. Like some people have said, he appears to not put in 100% effort throughout the game.

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I have no problem with using the kid's name.

If you mean what you say and you can back up your claims in a cogent manner (even if you're wrong), blast away. These athletes are about to be adults. The high-profile prospects are about to be under a microscope on a much larger scale anyway.

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They're all overrated

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rrforlifebaby wrote:Watching Govs play Sabers. Campbell just scored. I know this kid's parents are Red Raider alum and he is pretty talented. But just watched a replay and it doesn't look like he put much effort against a double team. Like some people have said, he appears to not put in 100% effort throughout the game.
farrington dont know how to use b-man in their defensive schemes, they use his weaknesses as an excuse.
bring him to kahuku and we would use his strengths as a reason for our linebackers to be leading the state in tackles and sacks.

its a team game!

bless the fehoko family, they accomplished what they wanted in getting all their boys college scholarships. but they obviously did not want to win high school championships or else they never would have left kahuku
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his strengths are individual play. He doesnt play assignenment football well. You watch the film, he makes plays once or twice a game when he breaks assignment in order to rush the qb. or possibly go against a castle offensive lineman who you'll see on his highlight tape over and over again. He excels in camps because its a one on one situation. No need to read offensive lineman and play a gap. Watch the mililani film, they ran right at him and simply let him pick a gap and run off the opposite.

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opposing coaches know that b-man strength is one-on-one that is why mililani double and tripple team him the entire game. thats his asset to the team to draw double teams allowing other players to make plays. farrington defense was so mento to have 3 man rush and let the 4 linebackers sit in coverage, no blitzing at all and mililani still picked apart the gov db's, terrible coaching is you ask me, their defensive coordinator needs to go.

like i said kahuku defensive scheme is to pressure the QB and b aggresive. b-mans true value would be recognized if he played with a defensive minded program like kahuku, instead he is left out on an island all by himself with no help from his teammates and b critisized because a lack of production when in fact his role is not to produce but to facilitate.
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Interesting to hear people say that he didn't put out much effort against DOUBLE TEAMS.

If he wasn't a beast no one would be double teaming him. If he is being double teamed he's done his job. Others on the D should be making plays. If he is holding his ground he is doing a great job.

There aren't too many DL even in the NFL that make plays off of double teams.

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TheDuke wrote:Interesting to hear people say that he didn't put out much effort against DOUBLE TEAMS.

If he wasn't a beast no one would be double teaming him. If he is being double teamed he's done his job. Others on the D should be making plays. If he is holding his ground he is doing a great job.

There aren't too many DL even in the NFL that make plays off of double teams.
Just to clarify, I referenced the replay of one particular play. I've seen him go hard, but it just seems like he takes plays off. I'm not taking anything away from his talent level.

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Let me ask you something. Does he ever come out of a game? I bet he doesn't. In college and the NFL DLs are spelled often. They rarely play a whole game. In many cases they are rotated and on passing downs specialists are brought in. You don't see that at the HS level.

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So u telling us that he's good because he gets double team really. So how bout Rex Manu he getting double/triple teamed, and they run a 3-4. Remember Kennedy tulimasealii beast only him all by himself doing damage jus like Rex doing damage. Who Kennedy had on the line with him nobody. Who Rex got on line with him nobody. It is a team sport but when you're highly decorated as a top 10 prospect in the country then you better play like it. Manti showed it, his brother Vj showed it, Rex is showing it. Shoot and do u see them coming out? Heck no. But he is good in camps tho.

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TheDuke wrote:Let me ask you something. Does he ever come out of a game? I bet he doesn't. In college and the NFL DLs are spelled often. They rarely play a whole game. In many cases they are rotated and on passing downs specialists are brought in. You don't see that at the HS level.
Wow that is a great point but its because most HS teams lack Depth and size to do so ive seen punahou do it alot because they do have those two things, but i dont think farrington could get away with it.
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if you go to oc16.tv and watch the replay the games this year between mill vs. farrington, and then mill vs. campbell
you will see how the smaller DT for cambpell has better persuit of the ball after the initial contact off the line, he might get double teamed in the same 3-4 defense for 3 plays but on the 4th play mill offense will single team him and he will hustle himself to make a play.

mill vs. farrington i saw b-man get a lot of double team but no pursuit of the ball when the the mill offense had a broken play. i think thats the weakness that some are eluding to in that he quits after the intial contact off the line and is pretty much useless after the first 4 seconds of the play.

going back to the campbell vs. mill game you can see that the saber linebackers are way better and coached better then the farrington defense.
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U may be right. Farringtons def coaches jus might be the reason why he isn't playing up to par. I mean look at Tamatoa silva transfer from mililani now a gov and was a beast for the Trojans since his sophomore year. When they played mililani I heard his name and fehokos name once all game. I gotta say Huki-lau-lau u get 2 points for 2nite... It's the coaches that are overrated my bad :)

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Fehoko is not doubled teamed as often like some people say he is. :D

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I'm sure camps played a major part in getting him exposure but recruiters will also look at game films and talk to coaches whom they have built a relationship with regarding his playing ability..I'm sure Nick Saban didn't just react to what he saw at the Bama Camp. He probably had his recruiters pull game films and called around. Also, a national recruiting agency came down to first hand see what Fehoko was all about and proceeded to give him his 5th Star...Now is he better than some of the other players mentioned, maybe or maybe not. It's all about what recruiters believe he will help their team the most and obviously with teams like Alabama, Texas Tech (whom he committed too) and I believe 30 other D1 offers, they probably see something they like.

Just by reading reports that he's on scheduled to graduate early and enroll in Texas Tech in the spring shows he's taking care of academics as well. Mom and Dad did a great job of giving their kids exposure and in all fairness isn't that what we all want for our kids..just a chance to get a scholarship so parents don't have to pay and obviously the Fehoko's know what their doing with all 4 boys receiving full scholarships. Hats off to them and best of luck to Breidan and the rest of the Island boys who are doing their best to get into college..

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