Punahou baseball - how can a program fall so far?

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just wondering what's going on with the Punahou baseball program? Another loss today - now 1 - 5 - 1 on the season. A once proud program now a bottom feeder.

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budsdad wrote:just wondering what's going on with the Punahou baseball program? Another loss today - now 1 - 5 - 1 on the season. A once proud program now a bottom feeder.

14 errors in the last four games. Not going to cut it in the ilh.
They're not as deep as they used to be with the pitching rotation. Perhaps they are in a true rebuilding season.

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I would have to agree, reading about it in the paper. I remember when they would sneak into the post season and somehow win it every year. Not a real avid baseball watcher, but seeing Punahou now become a bottom dweller is definitely a change to see in hawaii athletics.

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Bottom feeder is too harsh. They play in the ILH with the likes of MPI, Iolani, Kamehameha and StL. The competition, to put it mildly, is tough. I think they still have a good team, but their rivals have kicked it up a notch.

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after today's loss - 2 wins 7 losses 1 tie. Maybe they're prepping to make a run in the ilh playoffs!

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should have waited til today to post - another loss - now 2 wins 8 losses and 1 tie. when was the last time a Punahou baseball team had 8 losses. And with at least 3 div 1 players on the roster. Time for a coaching change??

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budsdad wrote:should have waited til today to post - another loss - now 2 wins 8 losses and 1 tie. when was the last time a Punahou baseball team had 8 losses. And with at least 3 div 1 players on the roster. Time for a coaching change??

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Was he forced out by Kenny Harrison? Sucks for Punahou kids if he was, cause they deserve better than this.

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Poltclyrrational wrote:
browndog wrote:Bring back kadooka
Was he forced out by Kenny Harrison? Sucks for Punahou kids if he was, cause they deserve better than this.
Nope.

Heard was a difference in "coaching philosophy"......with then Pun AD Garcia.....who pressured Eric to "adjust" his program to accommodate some outspoken and influential parents......whose kids were riding the pine.

Have personally known and associated with Eric for over 20 years.....and spent a lot of time "shooting the breeze" with him on the links over the years.....so knew then that such an adjustment to his coaching philosophy was definitely not going to happen.....especially after 7 consecutive State Titles.

Just speculating.....but probably a good guess that Kenny had to accept Garcia's "coaching philosophy" as a condition of landing the HC job.......right after Eric. JMHO but kinda ironic that Kenny is still probably stuck with implementing Garcia's "coaching philosophy"......which is possibly factoring into the current results.......even though Garcia is now gone.

Never know.....about Eric returning to coach his alma mater......now that Garcia is gone. Will probably depend on who becomes the new AD......and what their "coaching philosophy" is......with respect to dealing with outspoken and influential parents......and their kids.

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Eric will never go back to Punahou. Life has moved on and HS baseball has no meaning in his life. Assisting his good friend at Kailua HS allows him to help young men and keep up the baseball learning.

Dont believe me... go ask him.

He was never forced out or allow to be forced out by anyoe, not a chance. If you know him parent influence has never played any role in his program. His program was always about Punahou Baseball. The most powerful business man and father Duane Kurisu ever in Hawaii and the Hawaii baseball scene had no influence on Eric or Eric allow him or anyone to have any influence other than bringing snacks to games or help fix his field.

As for Garcia she never played any decision in Eric leaving while doing nothing for Punahou other than take trips to further her own career and the patsy for the Punahou academia to be the focus instead of SI's #1 high school athletic school, and Wie, Manti, SI articles, countless State titles and so on. An AD is judged based on state titles and hiring head coaches. Holden's one year of championships covers Garcia total titles in the four years she fooled Punahou of her non skills.

As for Kenny, he was selected as head coach because there was no other candidates picked or Sue and Matias.

Wouldn't it be the shock of the HHSAA year if a 2-8-1 team gets hot wins a few games in the ILH tournament and wins four games in a row in May? Why not Punahou there is no other dominant team out there this year.

My crystal ball says:
Seeds
Campbell #1
MPI #2
Baldwin #3
Waiakea #4

First Round
Iolani
Maui Campbell

St Louis
Waipahu Waiakea

Pearl City
Kailua Baldwin

Hilo
Moanalua MPI

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Was never forced out......but external pressure from Garcia did exist......as well as external work-related (non-baseball nor school) issues.

Made his own decision to leave......but the hounding by Garcia sure didn't help.
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IMHO - I believe Coach Harrison will be gone after this year since his son graduates and moves on to play ball in college. I don't think it was ever about the Punahou players for him - just about ensuring his kid shines. Unfortunate because the kid is good enough to shine on his own.

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budsdad wrote:I don't think it was ever about the Punahou players for him - just about ensuring his kid shines.
If you mean inflating offensive stats and making sure other players were charged w/ his errors you are right.

This was also Harrison's chance to feel like a big shot again in the game - even if it was only at the HS level. Including the current team, what other HS in the state has graduated so many college baseball players over the last 3 year?
How can the team be so bad?
Parents inside the program know the answer.

"Don't listen to your parents, they never played pro-ball."
Thanks Kenny for another great season of Punahou baseball

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localbraddah wrote:
budsdad wrote:I don't think it was ever about the Punahou players for him - just about ensuring his kid shines.
If you mean inflating offensive stats and making sure other players were charged w/ his errors you are right.

This was also Harrison's chance to feel like a big shot again in the game - even if it was only at the HS level. Including the current team, what other HS in the state has graduated so many college baseball players over the last 3 year?
How can the team be so bad?
Parents inside the program know the answer.

"Don't listen to your parents, they never played pro-ball."
Thanks Kenny for another great season of Punahou baseball
The parental silence appears to be fear for their kid(s).

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twnoexcuses wrote:The parental silence appears to be fear for their kid(s).
He's done.

Punahou does not fire coaches, they "ask them to resign". He's already been "asked" before.

Maybe we'll hear from some parents

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